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Linux Desktop Market Share Surpasses 10% in North America
https://linuxiac.com/linux-desktop-market-share-surpasses-10-in-north-america/
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For those confused as to why “macOS” and “Mac OS X” are listed separately, it’s likely because different browsers list macOS differently. But they both refer to macOS— putting it at 29.74% market share, higher than it’s ever been (it’s usually hovered around 23%-25% in the past)
That means both Linux and macOS growth are coming from users fleeing Windows like the plague.
☭可爱小猫☭but mac no good :(
we need more Linux :D
I find it very strange how windows is somewhat more tolerated than macOS on Lemmy, especially considering how windows is unusable shit, and macOS is actually a pretty decent BSD distro— yet, merely mentioning it gets near-universal ire.
Yes, I know that macOS has its downsides, but Windows has a 10,000 times more problems with it, but discussions of it are tolerated
Edit: I wanna thank everybody for taking part in a very insightful discussion. I believe I’ve gotten my answer, or at least gotten much closer to one.
TeaWithDaniMacOS is fine. Wouldn’t be as maligned if it existed in a vacuum outside the Apple business model.
Its like buying a Thinkpad new… its crazy for that price, but otherwise everything is excellent. Paying $500 for a once $5000 Thinkpad will change your opinion on the sticker shock.
See, I’m speaking of macOS separate from Apple hardware, as a piece of software. But I guess most people don’t see those as separate things.
I hadn’t really considered that.
Short answer: Contempt. I feel nothing but contempt for Apple and its products. They aren’t evil but they also aren’t good (not the opposite of evil but in the “I think this is worth using” sense).
Long answer: Apple earned their place in my mental category of “polished turd” decades ago with their single button mice and their tendency to pick form over function. Those colourful iMacs back around 2000 were easily the worst computers I’ve ever used, between the mouse that was perfectly round (so you couldn’t tell its rotation without looking at it or at least feeling for the wire), the slowness (simple assignments took forever), and instability (I just avoided using them at all after the nth assignment was lost after an hour of work).
And then they added “trendy walled garden” with the iPhone and serve as a reminder of how many people fall for marketing bullshit with how many people seem to prefer the shittier locked down option while also acting smug about it.
So personally, Mac was labelled irrelevant back during the Win vs Mac wars, before MS really embraced the enshitification and thought they had to make something people wanted to use to sell it rather than do whatever and most people go along because inertia. And now that MS has embraced the enshitification, my own mental model for them is basically “just like Mac except Mac seems like they are trying to be good but just have a very different idea of what ‘good’ is, while MS isn’t even trying to be good and pursue other means of revenue”.
So, the idea of a product they made 25 years ago, not actually the reality of anything they’re doing today… That’s what informs your entire opinion of Apple now?
I get what you’re coming from, I just don’t find that a rational position to hold anymore.
I mean, I don’t disagree with you about those original iMacs, but even back then, they still made some pretty great other computers that were very popular, too. That was just a single product at the time. They also brought UNIX/BSD to the masses with Mac OS X while massively contributing to FOSS projects (and still do).
Again, I’m not denying that Apple has certainly done some terrible things and is a pretty shitty company with their proprietary, bullshit, etc., etc. etc. And I’m liking macOS less and less with each iteration, and my next computer very likely won’t be a Mac for the first time in probably 30 years.
I just find it weird that, between Windows and macOS, one is clearly far better than the other, but macOS gets far more hate here than windows seems to. So much so, that even discussing it is hardly tolerated. but you’ve kind of answered my question a little bit – it’s not macOS itself, it’s how much people hate Apple. But even still, isn’t Microsoft so much worse than Apple?
Maybe it’s for the same reason that red hat and SuSE are rarely spoken of around here: it’s some sort of some sort of same-side betrayal by Apple?
adr1anThe only acknowledgement I grant macos/ osx and windows is that their decisions are in the desktop environments we use on a Linux system. That’s for good, (and maybe bad.?)
Windows has decades of existing software that still works. Mac OS blocked 32bit software, and will soon drop rosetta 2 to block all x64 software too.
Windows has more drivers available.
macOS is bsd based and has a posix terminal, but windows has wsl.
Personally I hate both, but if I had to pick one, I’d choose the one with the most supported software/hardware.
You’re going to need to tweak both to get a decent user experience anyway.
on my work Mac I have to download a third party app that has to run in the background to disable the Music app from launching when my earbuds connect via Bluetooth. people hate Mac more because they generally force features on you that are just weird, and when i close a window, i want to actually close it.
I’ve been running Macs for 30 years, and I use Bluetooth headphones too, I’ve never had that happen before. There has to be some setting somewhere that’s causing this to happen, and I assure you it’s not on by default.
i couldn’t find any setting, unless my company policies block it. it is a new m4 macbook so maybe it’s a newer thing? if i use my headset for work calls it launches everytime and if it reconnects opens it again. their own forum points users to install notunes via homebrew and set that to run at login. even if this were a setting it doesn’t even make sense for being a default except as a dark pattern to push people into their stack. you can’t even uninstall the music app or default apps.
I assure you, this is not default behavior. I use three different pairs of Bluetooth headphones on my new M4, MacBook Pro, and it does not do this. I’ll dig around and see if I can find the setting which may be stupidly hidden somewhere, and I’ll let you know if I find it. I can definitely understand how this could be extremely annoying.
What brand of headphones are you using?
The headline is dramatic but the reality, and the article content, are more equivocal.
For comparison, Statcounter recorded Linux at 5.52% in June 2026, so the share nearly doubled in one month
This seems… optimistic? As the article notes this is really the proportion of HTTP requests made from that operating system, not the actual number of desktops running it. What are the odds this spike is due to some Sparkling Botnet (AI company) doing a scraping run with agents that identify themselves as Linux desktops? I think that or any number of other scenarios are more likely than that the entire increase is truly new organic desktops running Linux.
I think that would certainly add (a lot of) noise to the data, but seeing as there’s still a net drop in windows, it’s still a good month for linux. Sucks that they can only use http requests. :(
Sounds like they figured out most of the previously unspecified traffic, comes from Linux based systems.
But you’re right about an unknown amount of that traffic is from servers.
irelephant [he/him]Scrapers wouldn’t identify themselves as using Linux. They want to blend in.
I think it’s more likely for Linux users to visit the site in the first place.
I assume they’d cycle through a list of valid user agents. That might make their noise a constant for all major OS’s if they did that
In that case they’d bump the stats for any os, not just Linux specifically
JackbyDevIt could be that they don’t smartly loop through operating systems based on the actual distribution. Like an even split Windows/macOS/Linux.
It could also be that they decided to change the criteria for what they identify as a Linux device. Especially when they don’t have enough metadata because of good privacy settings.
recursive_recursionI’m personally gonna call it,
2026 is legitimately the year of desktop Linux
Microsoft’s fucked around with their users to a considerable degree that 10% happened this soon.
Fuck Microslop, Long Live Linux
MajesticTechieI don’t think there will a “year” of the Linux desktop. The climb to take over will take more than a year. A “Decade of the Linux Desktop” seems more apt and I think this is it. 2020-2030 will be this change. SteamOS and Proton has bridged the Gaming gap and entry level for average users so well and it’s only going to get better.
Exactly, there was a huge change in attitude and since then every year is a year of the linux desktop
tux0r2026 is legitimately the year of desktop Linux
What is the exact qualification in order to be called “the year of the Linux desktop”? I have been using Linux on my desktop computer(s) for almost two decades. Was my year of the Linux desktop this year also?
I’d say the ongoing thread is more the declining use of desktops/laptops in general in favour of phones or tablets. Cloudflare’s tools doesn’t allow us to compare between either.
North America, where the smart people live.
Oh right... they
Sure, Mexico has its problems, but I wouldn’t dare classify a whole country of people as stupid.
And Canada?
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ditching windows is one of the best decisions i’ve made in the last few years
Recs for software that made the transition easier?
i’m not a good person to ask for advice, but this site seems pretty legit: https://linuxvox.com/blog/switching-to-linux/
i use pop_os! which is a fork from ubuntu. i still know next to nothing about doing anything with the linux command line, but have gotten along fine with just gui–a lot of softwares provide the command to install things on their download page and you just paste it into the terminal
steam works pretty much flawlessly, other game stores less flawlessly (you use a launcher like heroic or lutris for non-steam)
so far in a year and a half there’s only one thing i haven’t been able to do, which is use garmin’s gps software to update my maps. not going back to windows for that
Get yourself to https://omgubuntu.co.uk/ and check out the offerings. The apps there work on most/all distros, but are best presented and curated on that website.
I dropped Windows in the early 2000s. A few people saw how dependable the desktop was (and no pop-ups from anti-virus etc) and I was gradually able to help them switch too.
I’d be cautious of switching someone since they sometimes forget they depend on an application. But for the most part they were happy with their choice.
My point is, another benefit of switching is that it can be infectious.
Anyone who feels compelled to switch someone else to Linux… Prepare yourself for providing a lifetime of tech support. If someone hasn’t mentally gotten to the point of doing the transition for themselves, then someone will need to iron out the wrinkles for them.
That will happen. And for the few who didn’t stay with it, it was because they felt improper calling me for support. I think it’s best to let them try for a while first.
But as a counterpoint, I put my parents on Ubuntu LTS after constant tech support queries for Windows. The calls went from once per month to once per year.
Also, it’s much easier to provide tech support for Ubuntu than Windows IMO.
I’m not happy that Linux is growing in market share and that windows is going down. I’m happy knowing that this will motivate more companies to put support towards Linux. Which, well, kill windows. That makes me happy.
When do we get our checks?