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Samsung will delete your health data if you don't let them use it to train AI
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Darkassassin07Please do. Samsung is a tech company; why tf does it have peoples health data…
𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘Somewhat misleading. The data is only deleted from your samsung account if you refuse, but you can still keep and track it on device.
Yes, that can we worded much better but the grammar checking people and software developing people have different communication styles.
Ann ArchyIf you sign up for a Samsung account you’re a rube.
I’m not in the all-or-nothing crowd. I can both have an account to make my life easier without seeing nag screens about accounts AND store absolutely no data in there. Also I recommend making a totally new account everytime with wrong genders to throw off the numbers.
babysmokesalotCORP_O RANDSOMEWARE ATTACK the kicker is they will keep it and take it from you. Go ahead and complain see what happens.
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SecretSaucesAFAIK it’s just a toggle in the settings. It says, “consent to the use of health data for Ai training and modeling” and you just click to turn it off.
SalvoWho is letting Samsung have access to their health data?
Average person that doesn’t care what data a company has or what it does with it
Do you know what? I trust Apple with my data (for better or for worse, or at least I used to).
I can see how someone might be just as delusioned as I am but they trust Samsung instead.
Well, that’s certainly one possibility, but there are so many average people that simply don’t even know. You could mention their data or try to talk about privacy or safety with it and they would neither care, nor be interested, and in some cases not even comprehend it or why it matters.
Was just at a local area on some bleachers and a row below me was a woman on her phone watching AI slop videos one after another. Her entire feed was only AI slop videos for 45 minutes. That’s the kind of person I’m thinking of. The ones that unilaterally pay no attention, for whatever reason, to any aspect of data privacy/sovereignty/anonymity/safety/"insert aspect here”.
People on Lemmy aren’t likely to have just stumbled in here. We are probably all aware of these issues on some level. But average people like that woman I mentioned are the ones most at risk of being taken advantage of. We need extremely strong data and privacy regulation, and needed it years ago.
Lol sorry, didn’t mean to soapbox. Just have a lot of strong opinions on this and am tired of seeing people, naive or not, being taken advantage of.
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Right? If Apple would do that to me I’ll drop them like a hot potato
I have a Samsung phone and I take great pleasure in ignoring the weekly reminders that I still haven’t agreed to their latest privacy policy (or any previous version since the very first one which I was forced to accept while setting up the phone). Refusing to do this probably doesn’t accomplish anything, but it’s my own private act of rebellion while I eagerly await those new Motorola phones with first-party Graphene OS support.
i hope they are available in my region. it’d be nice to have when planned obsolescence takes mine.
Awesome. Samsung shouldn’t have anyone’s health data.
Sounds ok to me, it’s usually very hard to get data like that deleted. Best to not let them get it in the first place.
>The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details. The company also said that humans (maybe Samsung employees and third-party contractors) will be able to review some of the data collected.
For your own sake… let them*
^* delete the data that is.^
Just curiosity. How the hell is US medical system set up that it’s even possible for a company thats not in any way related to health have acess to medical history and meds?
Like my countries medical system is fully digitized, but there isn’t even a way for a random company to acess this information.
A lot of this is info from smart watches, etc.
Fair, heart rate, weight and height would be considered as medical records. But meds? How can it figure that out if i don’t specifically tell it?
It can’t. But they give you a space in the app for you to tell it.
That makes sense, thank you for elaborating.
How would Samsung get my health data in the first place?
Samsung Health data?
Why would you voluntarily give a company access to you health data, and not expect it to be abused ten times to sunday? They haven’t even secured it properly, so perhaps your health records are being traded on a data black market.
I had a Samsung smart watch, and it was honestly hard to use without an account. Half the features are locked behind signing in. I stopped using it when weather updates stopped working without logging in.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch, and it’s glorious.
Love my dumb watch. Had to get a new smartwatch every 3 years or so due to planned obselesence. Spent the same amount on a pretty citizen and have had it for over 5 years. Hasnt even noticably lost time
Same, but I’ve sidegraded to Pebble, which stores the data on my phone.
Indirect corporate sympathizing is what this is.
Blame consumers for the abuse and malpractice of corporations who SHOULD be publicly regulated.
This viewpoint encourages their practices by peddling the same logic these corporations use to continue justifying their practices.
The logic is just silly. They know exactly why: telemetry is a first class feature in just about any digital consumer based product. We live in a culture defined by consumerism. Social class is defined by what you can consume. Success is defined by your ability to consume more. You gotta have the fancy car, the nice shoes, the biggest house and the best suit.
Caring about telemetry, what information can be inferred from what data, and what information poses what risks in which entities hands… that line of thinking isn’t popular. Blindly consuming is popular. Showing off your cool new watch is popular.
The result is that Samsung has health data. This is right in our faces. There are no secrets, no hard puzzles, nothing of that sort. Seeds planted, and now people wonder why they have a bean staulk? Golly.
You’re believing in the tooth fairy. We live in corporatism as a political system, with a nearly complete regulatory capture. As a consumer, you are completely screwed. So do not use proprietary services and products. If you call this corporate sympathizing I wonder what you’d call corporate criticism.
Why would Samsung have my health data ???
They have an app, called ‘Samsung Health’, that allows you to see/record how many steps you did, how you slept etc etc
Smart watches.
afaik you can sync data from a samsung smartwatch and let it analyze stuff
I believe currently the health app is the only way to use galaxy watch gen 4+.
Just checked and couldn’t find any other way.
One just never hears anything good about Samsung anymore.
What? This is great news.
Use gadget bridge ! It’s an open source app. Your data stay on the phone !
https://gadgetbridge.org/
https://f-droid.org/packages/nodomain.freeyourgadget.gadgetbridge
So I can tell them to not use my data, and they’ll also delete it as a bonus?
Now I wish I’d ever given them any health data, just so I could do this.
Probably they’ll keep it, they’ll just delete your access to it.
Well at least they’re giving people the option. Most other companies just declare they’re giving themselves permission to use your data unless you opt-out (meaning if you’ve lost access to the account you’ve got no way to stop them)
If you’re not paying for it, you’re the product.
This isn’t that. People are paying for devices with promised feature sets that have now had their terms changed.
When I looked into it, the health related smartwatch features that were sold specifically said that they required you to use use, and agree to the terms of service (which says they can cancel the service at any time) of, their specific apps or devices and that the data provided to these services were theirs to do with as they please.
I thought that was a terrible deal so I didn’t buy one.
There are smartwatches that let you keep your data, but they require a lot more work to use.
Pebble are pretty good.
They don’t require any work to use, have a battery life measured in weeks, not hours, keep all your health data local unless you very specifically set it up to send it to a health app, and are open source and reasonably priced.
Not an advertisement. It’s still a US company, but compared with something like a Samsung thing they’re pretty cool.
Why would any sane person even use this kind of feature? It’s not even that useful :/.
It’s the kind of thing people think they needed, when actually they dont… Who the fuck needs to know how many steps you did this afternoon? Or how “good” you slept yesterday? How many calories your ate this morning…?
I haven’t seen a single good use case of this kind of tracking device, except for your insurance/bank…
I use a Garmin watch to track my heart rate and variability, but I have a heart condition, so yeah. I agree with everything else though. “High stress detected” yeah, no shit.