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The Ghost Gun Crackdown Is Quietly Threatening the Future of 3D Printing
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The dumbest part is: it is perfectly legal to make a gun for 99% of Americans. The entire ‘ghost gun’ attack angle is doomed to failure.
And it isn’t just 3D printing; the New York bill includes all computerized manufacturing; it very explicitly includes CNC machines, for example. They are taking down entire manufacturing sectors to go after an unwinnable goal.
I dunno why they don’t just outlaw manufacturing your own firearms without a license…
The don’t want to send a case to the Supreme Court that would rule on the side of homemade firearms.
They would prefer to outlaw manufacturing anything without paying rent seekers.
Seems that way. Next up is licensing fees for printing certain models. Basically they’d like to get as far as when Picard says “Tea, Earl Grey, hot” the replicator says “Brought to you by Lipton. Taste good, feel good. You have 49 remaining replicator credits.”
It’d probably be wildly unconstitutional?
I remember when the news talked about ghost guns that they’d always bring up this CNC machine that would build AR lowers, the part that is legally “the gun”. I’m pretty sure it was the ghost gunner.
I read into it and got on forums. There was a poster who bought the machine and, because of legal reasons, had to get his friends to come push the start button so that they were making their own guns and not the poster making guns for others. Apparently, he got visited by the ATF, but basically got told he’s walking a fine line.
I can make my own ghost gun with a hand drill and a template you can buy online. a motivated person will always be able to find a way to do things, but its actually easier to just find someone to sell you a cheap illegal gun if you’re gonna commit a crime than to go through the whole trouble of building one yourself.
Yeah the supreme court is getting ready to fucking undo assault rifle bans next year, this shit ain’t lasting.
Amazing how they ISPs can just block sites based for states and how sites can block certain areas but these rulings their location jurisdiction.
Seems like bullshit when you can make a more reliable firearm from leas that $20 in parts from any hardware store.
Also “ghost guns” are perfectly legal in the US.
I wonder what the true reason for them attacking 3D printing, home CNC, etc. is…
Too many people are coming up with ways to repair or enhance items that don’t enrich the OEM.
These laws are the DMCA of the physical world. This is stage 4 malignant capitalism, where they claim their true dominion over us all.
Play by the rules: You exist, they make money off your existence, nothing changes.
They’re doing this because the number of self-created guns recovered from crime scenes has increased significantly over the last five years. I made a video about it recently, if anyone’s bored.
Calling it a ‘crackdown’ is a little silly though, and just the kind of overdramatic bullshit one would expect from American gun nuts.
It’s two state-level laws that aren’t even fully in force yet, and won’t work anyway, thanks to US gun law being a patchwork of fifty different fiefdoms’ opinions, many of which are unilaterally unenforced by local sheriffs on purpose anyway. Hell, guns are so absurdly legal in my state that they keep coming up with ways to make them extra-legal so that the gun lobby will keep the bribes flowing.
(european here) i can imagine that the gun religion in usa directed by nra and big manufacturer needs to have someone to blame to divert eyes from lack of real legislation over guns and what best to blame that a growing sector that could potentially affect their share of market in future. They could be scared from the fast development of 3d printing and the crazy power of innovation a community can achieve, they could be left behind just by the lack of innovation.
Another way to say this: blocking consumer 3d printer is a way to reinforce their dominant position by ensuring there is not other path than going threw them and making sure their market share don’t drop because of new technology growing/changing fast while diverting the real issue USA has with guns.
The REAL problem that the US has is deep inequity and a lack of a social safety net work actual healthcare IMO: Gun violence would be virtually eliminated if citizens were actually taken care of.
Even if you could magically disappear all the guns, the US would still be a violent place because gun violence is just a symptom of the above issues.
Before anyone brings it up: I’m not arguing for or against gun regulations here, just that this runs deeper than some might suggest.
I know usa has bigger problem than guns like healthcare (bigger as it affects way more people than guns), my comment was only to answer to your why would they go after 3D printing.
A violent place without guns Will always be a better place than with.
It’s basically at the thought-crime level of threatening, although a bit more real. More importantly, it’s an excuse industries that are threatened can lock on to so they don’t have to worry about low cost alternatives. A metal rod and some gunpowder = ghoster gun.
I like how now all of a sudden we forgot that you can make a gun out of hardware store plumbing… this seams like an intentional way to make sure that people can’t make things without paying the oligarchs. I think the fact that we are getting close to being able to make 90s level tech in garages is scaring the tech bros.
What, no way, who ever could have seen that coming?
This is so stupid.
My understanding is that you can’t make a gun from 100% 3D printed plastic parts. Why don’t you just regulate those final parts makers?
You can make single shot weapons from pretty much 100% plastic with just like a nail as the firing pin. But those aren’t really effective weapons at all, and you can make a better shotgun with some pipes from the hardware store.
Even if you could make fully functional firearms with 3D printers, this is still stupid. 3D printers for hobbyists were originally all hand built with common electronic parts and if more states pass regulations like this, DIY is going to be the new trend again where everybody builds their own printers instead of buying one and it’ll just get easier and easier and the government won’t be able to regulate that at all.
And, honestly, I’m all for that future, and sort of excited for it. The regulations are moronic and dumb, but just like digital surveillance and information suppression laws like age verification, it’s just going to make the darknet and none regulatable things more popular, which is great, in my opinion. I yearn for the day where the commoner gets online and Tor or I2P is their first choice of connection. Where the government has no control over the citizen and what they think, do, or say online or in their own private life.
Its a silly strawman.
For the same reason that it would be better to regulate polluters than to expect individuals to recycle their waste en masse. Regulating this at an individual level is demonstrably less effective, given that the recovery of self-created guns used in crimes has increased significantly in recent years.
Whether anti-gun 3D-printing algorithms will even work isn’t certain yet, but I’m all for giving it a try and forcing people to risk acquiring said weapons via legit manufacturers and shops which may be more traceable or risk the black market.
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