samus12345, samus12345@lemmy.world

As I said, if those games matter to them, they can simply use Steam’s Big Picture Mode in Windows. This is a non-issue.

You think that Sony server is going to give you those game patches 15 years from now?

Probably, considering that even with the closing of the PS3 store 20 years later, you will still be able to download and patch games you’ve already purchased. PS4 and PS5 will likely be backwards compatible on PS6 (for digital games only, of course), so will remain up for even longer since they’ll still be usable on current hardware.

But even if they’re went the Nintendo route where you only have a 15 year window or so, a tradeable license during that period is better than none at all. Still sucks ultimately, of course.

I can’t believe that cartridges will end up outlasting discs.

Best you can do is make it yourself via 🏴‍☠️.

Too little, too late.

My prediction is that they will make plenty of money, but console gaming will shrink as it prices more and more people out.

If you’re on Linux, for Proton, and Steam Input for compatibility. There have been many games that won’t work with my PS5 controller unless I run them through Steam.

The point is, we don’t know how many people there are who would buy at that price point because it’s as yet untested. Most of the people with PS5s now got them when they were $500 or less. I’m genuinely interested to see how a console with a 4 digit starting price fares. It’s a given that the PS6 will sell out at launch even if it’s $2000; it’s what happens after the demand of the hardcore gamers with excessive disposable income is satiated that will be interesting to see.

No. You can insert any PS4 or PS5 disc into any PS5 with a disc drive and it will run the game. It might also require a download, but they’re not tied to specific accounts.

Protip, you can run pirated games through Steam as a non-Steam game as well!

Maybe there are plenty of people who will pay $1000+ for an all-digital walled garden console, but it’s kinda jumping the gun for them to assume they’ve got it on lock since it will be untested until next gen starts.

Discs have become more of a tradeable license than anything else, but that’s still far, far better than having no option at all.

The only ones I can think of that don’t work are online ones that use Anti-Cheat. They can use Windows instead, then.

$780 is not a “bit” more.

Right now it’s way too expensive for me, but that’s because I currently have a PS5, Steam Deck, Switch 2, and PC that was mid-range in late 2021 that were bought when prices were reasonable. Once games I want to play come out that I can’t play on my current hardware, we’ll see where the market’s at and what makes sense, price-wise. I might have to go without high-end games for a while or even for good if prices never become sane again. Hoping I can squeeze several more years out of what I have now.

If someone had no way to play games and wanted to start gaming on the TV now without having to build something, a Steam Machine still would be a hard recommendation when the Switch 2 exists at a decent price, with the added benefit of being portable. The Steam Machine’s only worth it at its current price for people who like to tinker.

As companies greedily try to control what I have already purchased more and more, that’s exactly where I’m going.

Yes, it’s less than ideal, but still preferable to having NO way to sell or trade a license while the servers are still up. Games are becoming too big to fit on a single Bluray anyway.

For me, the locked ecosystem of consoles was justified by a lower price for the hardware and the option to sell or trade the software. Now that neither is going to be a thing any more, my 40+ years of console gaming will be ending after this gen. It’s gonna be dedicated PCs plugged into the TV from here on out.

Maybe not the Steam Machine itself, but a dedicated PC plugged into the TV using SteamOS, certainly. That’s going to be my “console” going forward after this gen.

That’s odd, my Fallout 4 was on a disc for PS4. Did you get it for PC?