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Borrowing Gary’s take on this since its the first one I found
TLDR: A lot of AI company stocks dropped last night, half a trillion dollars gone. Trump is considering having a government stake in OpenAI and other leading AI companies (aka thinly veiled bailout)
these might be actual end times
Good thing all those CEOs have Daddy Trump to run to while everyone else foots their bill
On Anthropic (and some other AI companies) and AI consciousness the final paragraph is the best part:
”Moreover, we should be skeptical when most of the noise on this topic is coming from the industry itself. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has repeatedly dangled the possibility of AI consciousness in interviews. And his company’s research frequently makes bold claims about their models showing humanlike behavior, such as supposedly harboring “emotions.” Just remember that it’s easier for AI companies to string us along with wild Skynet doomsday scenarios instead of confronting the tech’s far mundane consequences currently playing out before our eyes.”
Their fun interactive website does exist and the probability of automated coding at the end of the year doesn’t even get to 50% (and its their p10, meaning 90% of simulations of this model beat it out)
This one requires some minor backstory
Previously, I shared this wildly racist AI generated meme posted by an AI doomer channel
In the replies, someone pointed out how some of this channel’s other thumbnails appear to be AI generated citing a specific video about the “12 endings of AI”
Today I got curious about it after not thinking about it for a while. What are the 12 endings of AI? Instead of watching a 36 minute video, I did my own research (aka one online search) and it appears that it refers to Max Tegmark (known EA) and a concept he spoke about in his book. Here’s the article I got this info for peer review: https://medium.com/@butsch_79/the-12-futures-of-ai-a42d67bd9a20
If anyone’s got 36 minutes to spare feel free to follow up
That’s great news actually. The point still stands that we very well know how to deal with climate change, so trying to make AI models fix it is dumb
This is also why I find people who claim they’re making AI to “solve climate change” to be insufferable morons. We have a solution to climate change. You and your data centres are actively making the problem worse
Porting this over: Hinton believes LLMs have gained consciousness
Neil doesn’t seem to buy into rationalism though? He didn’t even really endorse Soares (or mention him at all) he just said that superhuman AI was dangerous. He has a video on how modern AI is overrated
real reason they picked 2027 is to balance urgency and hype generation with a bit of cushion for when the prediction doesn’t pan out.
Bingo. They probably hyped up Kokotajlo as a forecaster BECAUSE he had it earlier than the rest of them, so their prediction could have credence to it
Maybe because a lot of the press around it was about Daniel Kokotajlo as a forecaster, and at the time he had a 40% chance of AGI by the end of 2027 (according to them)? idk, still does feel a bit disingenuous
A bit more on the Anthropic cofounder who was there at the Pope’s speech choice snippet:
Olah even went as far as to say that Anthropic is operating “inside a set of incentives and constraints that can sometimes conflict with doing the right thing,” painting his employer as exactly the kind of entity that’s attempting to assume “monopolistic control” over tech, as Pope Leo warned in his encyclical.
I guess he’s trying to say Anthropic has a bunch of limitations and financial incentives as a company (which didn’t stop them from taking those Qatar donations)
So I was poking around the AI 2027 blog and discovered that they seem to be working on making another scenario, this time titled “AI 2030” they haven’t made any posts about it (that I can find anyways) but if its just an AI 2027 rewrite but with moved back timelines I’d imagine people will be less charitable with them.
EDIT: So upon further inspection, they have talked a little bit about how they’ve been focusing on researching and writing the scenario in their April 2026 timeline update. Since they started AI 2027 in 2024 and published it in 2025, it seems most likely that AI 2030 will be out in 2027. In other words, they’re basically setting themselves up to get dunked on (especially if its just a rehash but with moved back timelines)
Its the “expert in one field = expert in all fields” stuff that I hate. There’s still plenty of jobs and areas of expertise that require humans: medicine, psychology/therapy (AI has arguably made the need for human therapists way more important), physical labour like construction work, linguistics etc. Hell human authors are definitely keeping their jobs since so many people hate slop
The part about the AI generated story about ancient Israelis tugging at his heartstrings made me dig up the post where he proudly proclaims himself a zionist and creates an insane trolley problem: https://awful.systems/post/5437903
new Scott Aaronson blog post just dropped it’s mostly him freaking out about those solved Erdos problems and AI mathematicians replacing human mathematicians, with a little bit of AI short storywriting and the Pope’s encyclical sprinkled in
The Pope has not charged Catholics worldwide to burn down the data centres. Cool as that would be.
If we just push a littleee bit harder we can get there. Never give up!
This was from last year but I forgot about, but this article allegedly about a survey conducted by MIRI and Stanford University on a bunch of AI experts about timelines, which is definitely entirely AI generated since said survey straight up doesn’t exist (I didn’t find anything like it when I did some searches) and it quotes a person who doesn’t work for MIRI
the website title being “ai blogs ai” kinda gives it away
RetroFed

Disappointing that Hank fell for AI, especially after he made that rant video on Sora
The reason these (one of these incidents dates back to April, so they’re really not beating the “marketing campaign” allegations) happened in the first place is because of human error on their end, mind you
“AI safety focused” my ass
Behold, the Singularity!
Fuck Anthropic. Snotty little bastards want to talk about AI safety and then destroy books to make a pollution machine.
Getting a T-Shirt that says “I entered the Singularity and all I got was a plagiarism machine, a higher cost of living and this stupid T-Shirt”
Gary dunks on CEOs peddling Singularity bullshit
I posted about that in a previous thread
Not sure. He’s been charged but can’t find anything about the trial
never thought id see r/moralityscaling and r/whowouldcirclejerk here ever lol. but christ alive why would you ever conceive of this
the AI industry is (still) widely despised
We entered the Singularity and all I got was a bunch of fucking annoying and delusional businessmen
Kinda? They’ve posted an update about it and I suspect there’s gonna be another one soon with august around the corner
this Diary of a CEO channel has always struck me as the kind to fall for any kind of bs hook line and sinker
A recent two hour interview with Kokotajlo I do not have the time to go through all this but if anyone does feel free to go ahead.
What I will say tho is that the thumbnail is definitely some kind of clickbait, because of the “uhm actually we were never confident in 2027” thing
Its truly astounding that they put a marketing spin on committing a crime but thats the AI industry for ya
SpaceX stocks hit an all-time low make it go lower
I know it was a zero day exploit but what specific exploit i have no idea
Full here but TLDR:
OpenAI downloaded a public benchmark to test their newest AI model against. They asked the model to “find the answers” so it hacked into the system of the people who made the benchmark to find the answers
Dean Ball’s name rings a bell to me. Emile Torres wrote an article on him its pretty standard OpenAI exec stuff (that is being a wacko high off his own tech)
“please forgive me for spreading sinophobic propaganda for bailouts i have a baby :((“
I’ve been aware of Faggella for a while (entirely against my will) he’s got an interview with Yud on his podcast which contains this all-timer quote: