EnmebaraGuesser, enmebaraguesser@piefed.ca

Oh wow. One apparently sold on ebay for $1500!

Done.

Ah, I see what you mean. Seems to me those are enough to make the image suspect, so I’ll edit the post in a few minutes here and replace that image.

Thanks! Btw I got to be a frequent poster a few weeks ago but I have no other association with the group, so I don’t know if there is any kind of post checking other than just having people notice things like you did here.

I removed one entire post I made a few weeks ago, which was from an AI source, which I didn’t know at the time I posted it.

In this case the existence of these cages is very well attested, inc with the wikipedia info above, and many articles in reputable publications. If you have evidence one of the photos is AI, I’ll edit the post to remove that and replace it with another, since there are endless photos of these things from the era.

I noticed that too. I wonder if there were multiple brands or types?

Free hanging, I’d figure wind would be a problem, and mom or nanny would have to monitor that carefully.

Shows up for me but it might depend on your app, maybe? It’s an animated gif so maybe some won’t display it inline.

Here’s a direct link to the gif, if that helps any

“Not as clumsy or random as a phone. An elegant computing device for a more civilized time.” - Obi Wan Kenobi

It did survive in a way: Huffy apparently owns the rights to it now and makes a modernized version with a hand brake. It looks like this.

By the comments further in the thread, everybody is going, “Had one, suffered lots of injuries, totally worth it though!” So probably a safe bet that many injuries were sustained from these. On the plus side, it doesn’t look very easy to flip when you skid it out.

Interesting. From your link, it seems our modern usage of cypher stemmed from this!

The word came to Europe with Arabic numerals. From “zero,” it came to mean “any numeral” (early 15c.), then (first in French and Italian) “secret way of writing; coded message” (a sense first attested in English 1520s), because early codes often substituted numbers for letters.

About zeros, my guess would be that the ad doesn’t mean zero in the literal sense, but in the sense of how many places to shift intermediate products by during a multiplication. You’d add zeros to the right of each term, to get the power of 10 right for the intermediate products. Normally doing a hand multiplication you just don’t write those down, merely imply it with alignment. But in principle, the zeros are there, and you have to get the count of them right.

But that’s just guessing. I have never used a machine like that before!

Yeah. Before I made the post I’d actually attempted to look a few up on Wikipedia, but came up empty handed. I didn’t try very hard though! There might be better places around the web for old timey Seattle musicians.

Oh, I see. I wonder if that could’ve been blocked by some filters? When I made the OP I ran across a photo of Eben Byers after his jaw issue, and it was rather… gruesome. I decided against putting it in the post, even with a NSFW marker, but I’m not sure what would have happened if I tried.

Here’s the wikipedia photo of them anyway. 1922.

For sure, the damage over time is an interesting subject. Like lead has a direct exposure effect (IQ loss) but I’m not sure if that passes down to subsequent generations. Maybe though… in epigenetics, there are multi generation effects. Even it doesn’t, there might still be indirect impacts. Like your society makes worse choices for itself on average, and the effects of those choices go on to cause multi generational damage in other ways.

It must’ve been studied a lot by now, but I don’t know much about it.

Oh wow. One apparently sold on ebay for $1500!

Done.

Ah, I see what you mean. Seems to me those are enough to make the image suspect, so I’ll edit the post in a few minutes here and replace that image.

Thanks! Btw I got to be a frequent poster a few weeks ago but I have no other association with the group, so I don’t know if there is any kind of post checking other than just having people notice things like you did here.

I removed one entire post I made a few weeks ago, which was from an AI source, which I didn’t know at the time I posted it.

In this case the existence of these cages is very well attested, inc with the wikipedia info above, and many articles in reputable publications. If you have evidence one of the photos is AI, I’ll edit the post to remove that and replace it with another, since there are endless photos of these things from the era.

I noticed that too. I wonder if there were multiple brands or types?

Free hanging, I’d figure wind would be a problem, and mom or nanny would have to monitor that carefully.

Shows up for me but it might depend on your app, maybe? It’s an animated gif so maybe some won’t display it inline.

Here’s a direct link to the gif, if that helps any

“Not as clumsy or random as a phone. An elegant computing device for a more civilized time.” - Obi Wan Kenobi

It did survive in a way: Huffy apparently owns the rights to it now and makes a modernized version with a hand brake. It looks like this.

By the comments further in the thread, everybody is going, “Had one, suffered lots of injuries, totally worth it though!” So probably a safe bet that many injuries were sustained from these. On the plus side, it doesn’t look very easy to flip when you skid it out.

Interesting. From your link, it seems our modern usage of cypher stemmed from this!

The word came to Europe with Arabic numerals. From “zero,” it came to mean “any numeral” (early 15c.), then (first in French and Italian) “secret way of writing; coded message” (a sense first attested in English 1520s), because early codes often substituted numbers for letters.

About zeros, my guess would be that the ad doesn’t mean zero in the literal sense, but in the sense of how many places to shift intermediate products by during a multiplication. You’d add zeros to the right of each term, to get the power of 10 right for the intermediate products. Normally doing a hand multiplication you just don’t write those down, merely imply it with alignment. But in principle, the zeros are there, and you have to get the count of them right.

But that’s just guessing. I have never used a machine like that before!

Yeah. Before I made the post I’d actually attempted to look a few up on Wikipedia, but came up empty handed. I didn’t try very hard though! There might be better places around the web for old timey Seattle musicians.

Oh, I see. I wonder if that could’ve been blocked by some filters? When I made the OP I ran across a photo of Eben Byers after his jaw issue, and it was rather… gruesome. I decided against putting it in the post, even with a NSFW marker, but I’m not sure what would have happened if I tried.

Here’s the wikipedia photo of them anyway. 1922.

For sure, the damage over time is an interesting subject. Like lead has a direct exposure effect (IQ loss) but I’m not sure if that passes down to subsequent generations. Maybe though… in epigenetics, there are multi generation effects. Even it doesn’t, there might still be indirect impacts. Like your society makes worse choices for itself on average, and the effects of those choices go on to cause multi generational damage in other ways.

It must’ve been studied a lot by now, but I don’t know much about it.

I think we’re paying for lead to this day! It causes intellectual impairment and all kinds of other lasting nastiness. At least we’ve taken big steps to remove it from our lived environment, so the effects are less today than in the 70s, and it should continue to get better in the future.

We still have a TON of pseudoscience “medicine” around today of course. Homeopathy, using magnets to “cure” things magnets cannot possible cure, “crystal healing”, techno-babble quackery like “quantum healing”, etc. But most of it at least is on the “useless but harmless” end of the scale, not the “makes your jaw fall off” end! Although, if it stops people from getting legit health care and treating their cancer with sham cures rather than evidence based medicine, that is a type of harm too.

For comparison, big wheels were advertised 4 - 9, so quite a bit younger range. But there was also a little wheel for 2 1/2 - 4, and a mini wheel for tots 1 1/2 - 3.

For bikes, pediatric groups have fuzzy ranges and say most children learn some time between 3-9. Random web site claims ahead -> The fraction of children who learn to ride a bike is 75% (UK numbers) where their parents were at 95%. The US was on a similar trend, but since 2018 it has reversed, and there is a surge of children (and adults!) riding bikes.

As it turns out…

I am imagining many shins getting thwacked by madly spinning pedals as it barrels down a steep hill. No ability to coast (right?) So if it goes too fast on a steep hill, you’d have to remove your feet from the pedals and try not to get beat up by it.

From each, according to his ability to pedal!

And if I may…

To each, according to his need for speed!

Woah!!