Purely for enjoyment

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Purely for enjoyment
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Wait. That’s illegal.

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gaining then

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Depends on how many calories you’ve burned and how many you’ve eaten. It could be a break-even smoothie, you don’t know

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Unless you ran to a farm to milk a cow, then to a different farm to pick the fruit and back home, it’s very unlikely to be close to break even.

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You don’t understand what I said then. You do not know the necessary information to make the judgement on whether this will make a person gain weight: you do not know

  • the ingredients in the smoothie (could be fuckin yogurt, milk and berries for all you know, which could be like 100-200kcal)

Or

  • the amount of calories that person has or will burn that day (if they are in a caloric deficit higher than the calories in the smoothie, it will not cause weight gain)

The existence of calories don’t automatically cause weight gain, excess calories cause weight gain.

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Then it isn’t for gaining, it’s for enjoyment. My point remains the same, we don’t know whether this smoothie will push this person into caloric excess, and I’m sick of people making asinine statements about things they literally could not know about.

Additionally, to judge food on whether its purpose is for gaining and losing weight is some eating-disorder-ass shit, which I have no fucking tolerance for. Food is neutral and holds no moral implications, and its purposes extend to fuel and enjoyment, exclusively.

Seen way too many friends almost die from this kind of rhetoric to not say anything.

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Lol at the amount of calories you think are in milk yogurt and berries.

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1/4 cup 2% milk: 30kcal

1/3 cup Greek yogurt: 100kcal

1/2 cup frozen mixed berries: 39kcal

Plus ice and maybe zero calorie sweetener if you want it.

Total estimated calories: 169kcal

Which is between 100 and 200kcal.

Not every smoothie has a bunch of added sugar. I’ve literally made smoothies like this before. That’s how I know. How often do you track calories, my dude?

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I think you’re right in this argument, but that’s a tiny smoothie. It’s barely more than a cup.

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That’s a 16 to 22 oz cup, so you’re going to add a lot of ice to water that thing down

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I mean, whole milk is 62 kcal per 100ml, plain yoghurt is 66 and berries are another 60… So for a glass of smoothie (I would assume around 20cl), it’s quite realistic for it to be maximum 150 kcal, even accounting for some sugar to sweeten it…

Or am I totally wrong with my calculation?

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We’re going to be using different measurements, but the gist of it is that the glass pictured is 16 to 22oz in size. 8oz (one cup) of milk is about 150 calories. Yogurt (plain) is generally the same, unless you use low fat lite yogurt. So just filling the cup with only yogurt and milk is 300 calories. Blueberries are around 80 a cup.

So there’s just no real way you’re getting a smoothie that size under 200 calories.

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“Today is my Null Smoothie Day!”

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Unless you’re making someone else drink it, then it’s anyone’s guess

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I make a strawberry “icecream” like smoothie purely for enjoyment, but it’s also just 200g strawberries 100g milk and like a tbsp of honey and it is low calorie high fiber yet I still eat it when i’m not trying to lose weight

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Ah, so gaining then.

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Not enough people seem to realize you can do things for the love of the game

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I had a coworker who would ask me every single time she saw me eating a salad “Decided to eat healthy today?” And I was like “Goddamn, do you see all this ranch? I just like leafs, yo.”

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Why eat fiber when there’s gum karaya? Why stop smoking when there are iron lungs??

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For the love of the shakes

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I regularly make smoothies as a breakfast replacement. They’re adapted from Brooke Goldner’s green smoothies, but altered to be more of a meal in itself. Can’t give exact numbers because I just eyeball it, but I densely pack dark green leafy vegetables til it’s about 40% full (the more variety of leafies the better), rolled oats, pumpkin seeds or walnuts, frozen mixed berries (again variety is best), ground flax seed, and raisins or dates to sweeten.

I make this for health benefits as well as the convenience of a fast breakfast, and yet it just so happens to taste great too. Stop believing the nonsense that it has to be either one or the other.

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Impossibru!

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Is that a metal straw? I wonder how hard it would be to clean one of those.

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Easy. You get nice little brushes like a pipe-cleaner.

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It is a pipe-cleaner

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Technically correct, the best kind of correct

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Oh, right! Thanks, I was asking because I have wanted to get one.

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Some straws even come with the brush!

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as much as I care about the environment, I’m too autistic to have a cold metal straw in my mouth

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Just pop them in the air fryer for a minute

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… minute?

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I much prefer them. For one, I feel like they feel as cold as the drink, which is highly satisfying. And for two, I find the texture of plastic kind of nasty, as well as the thought of whether I am consuming microplastic particles through the straw

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You can get plastic, glass or bamboo ones too. Actually, the metal ones I have come with a little silicon extenter on the end :).

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The metal straws I own came with a brush that’s the right size to clean them.

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I don’t know why I forgot pipe cleaners existed. My bad. I have been wanting to pick up one haha

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They are usually dishwasher safe.

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In our house, it’s for pooping

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Hold up, we can just do things just for enjoyment?
…really?

But, how will our overlords benefit from this?

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There’s no food that makes you burn calories instead of absorbing them. So all food is for gaining weight, exercise is for losing weight (or starving yourself).

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Most vegetables are far less calorie dense than virtually all other foods. In addition, plants and fungi are high fiber foods. Fiber is well known to promote satiety, being a natural way to promote our own body’s expression of glp-1 hormones.

One of the biggest challenges in weight loss is that most people’s appetites are survival machinery evolved to avoid starvation at all costs in environments that may potentially be lacking in food - but we now live in an industrial environment that not only has removed all the ways we would normally get exercise naturally through physical labor; but has surrounded us at every angle by extremely calorie dense junk food that’s specifically formulated to be addictive and hijack that survival machinery.

Exercise is important but you can’t out-exercise a bad diet, and starvation (which is exactly what a calorie deficit is) does not work either. Any method that works has to be able to deal with our toxic food environment. That’s why the glp-1 drugs are popular even though they tend to plateau. And that’s why vegans tend to average the lowest body weight of any dietary group.

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Ah btw, why do they group fruits and veggies together? Fruits are also relatively calories dense.

And also corn, wtf. Corn is potato and beans category.

While i agree with your point (exercise or not, you’d need to change your meal plan to lose weight that keeps), that graphic has issues.

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Yeah I do agree about the fruits, that is a little strange. Fruit would probably sit somewhere between veggies and beans. Maybe they just average it?

I think it’s just the issue of trying to simplify things. You can endlessly get into the details and end up with a monstrously complicated and useless infographic that is technically accurate. For example, even in the category of vegetables alone - carrots are technically more like potatoes, but colloquially still seen as a vegetable. And corn, despite being a grain is nutritionally more on the starchy side making that also more like potatoes.

But if the graphic reflected all that, the basic idea would get lost.

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Btw, where is pasta here?

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In between meat and potatoes, beans, and rice.

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It depends wildly on the fruit and vegetable. For example, cabbage is about 0.25 calories per gram but carrot is 0.36, and strawberries are 0.32. An apple is 0.5. (All numbers from Wolfram Alpha).

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Can you elaborate on the calorie deficit not working part? Because energy deficit is pretty much the only way to lose weight as the body will make up that deficit by using it’s own fat stores.

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It often doesn’t work in the sense that people try to achieve a calorie deficit by eating less, which causes their appetite to increase significantly. Many people are unable to resist overeating in our industrialized societies that constantly bombard us with addictive foods. So yes, a calorie deficit is necessary, but it’s also necessary to have a way to deal with appetite or else maintaining a calorie deficit becomes unsustainable.

That’s why plant-centric diets are a great choice - you can eat as much as you want to satiety, and still be able to lose weight.

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Fair point, i can see it from that perspective and yeah focusing on satiety is better alternative and more sustainable than just eating less, but still eating junk.

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So you’d need 4 stomachs full of vegies per day?

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Lulz. I would not recommend a diet made of purely vegetables for a prolonged period of time.

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Pretty sure lettuce is one.

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There are about 150 kcal in a litre of lettuce smoothie

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How many calories would it take to digest a litre of lettuce smoothie?

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A lettuce smoothie is not the same thing as eating lettuce. By turning it into a smoothie, you increase the calorie density and make it much easier to consume a higher quantity faster. That is likely enough to turn it into a higher calorie food.

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Not really, the calorie density is exactly the same per kilo. It’s just easier and quicker to drink a smoothie than to chew through a kilo of lettuce.

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I’m guessing it must be easier for the intestines to digest it if it’s blent into tiny pieces too.

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Take a cardboard box and grind it into powder, and tell me which one takes up less space. Of course anything blended is going to be more calorie dense.

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Celery?

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I always thought so because a very reliable man in the pub told me it, but it turns out not to be the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative-calorie_food

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What about ice?

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In order to avoid having to list exceptions to the above posts statement, you are now required to sprinkle a bit of sugar on every icecube you consume.

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I do that every day, my friend, with a special drink I made called a Baja Blast on Ice.

That’s one part Baja Blast.
One one-fifteenth part ice.
One one-one-hundredth part brown sugar.
And one one-fiftieth part lime slice.

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Ice(frozen water, right?) is food? In which culture?

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No, obviously I’m talking about meth.

(Assuming this joke won’t land: technically methamphetamine has calories.)

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Calories negative.

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