Physicists Found Something That Can Move Faster Than Light: The Darkness Inside It

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10209-z

Physicists have observed “holes” in light, known as optical vortices, moving faster than the light itself. This phenomenon does not break relativity as the vortices carry no mass, energy, or information. The achievement is a result of using electron microscopy to capture the motion of optical vortices in a two-dimensional material called hexagonal boron nitride.

Key points about the discovery:

  • Optical vortices are whirlpools in a wave of light that can outrun the light they’re embedded within
  • The vortices carry no mass, energy, or information, so they don’t break relativity
  • The phenomenon was observed in a two-dimensional material using a specialized high-speed electron microscope
  • The technique used can help study hidden processes in physics, chemistry, and biology
  • The researchers used a new method called electron interferometry to enhance image sharpness and capture the motion of the vortices.
  • The experiment showed that the vortices can reach superluminal speeds as they approach and annihilate each other.
  • The discovery provides a powerful technological tool for mapping the motion of delicate nanoscale phenomena in materials.
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Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.

Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man (Discworld #11)


This reminds me of It Was Nothing - Really by Theodore Sturgeon about the little spaces in perforations between toilet paper being discovered to be indestructible. It went on to make industries out of the ’nothing’. In real life, could these vortices be used to propel us faster than light?

Probably not, but it’s fun to think about.


Doesn’t the position, speed and vector of two vortices count as information? And here I thought that annihilation indicated mass and/or energy.

Finally, do the light vortices have their own speed constant that it cannot break?


A laser dot can also move faster than light. What’s the news?

The news is telling to give up hope. The light shall never prevail against the darkness! All shall be engulfed and silenced! Scientists are doomers nowadays.

Oh hey, Mr White! Have you tried these nachos? I don’t know how they make them, but they taste so good!






Wouldn’t the darkness inside the light’s speed be relative to the light itself? Think of that example of the person walking back and forth on a moving train while an observer outside watches the train pass by.


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Holy hell, that abstract is written like an undergrad with a thesaurus trying to expand its length. I know theoretical physics has a lot of specifics that call for precise language, but god it was a pain to read through.

The title for the paper is radically different. From my understanding, the title (on lemmy) is misleading. People often forget that a ‘thing’ is different than an image of a thing. The classic example is this:

Imagine standing in a perfectly circular room, dead center. The room has a radius of one light-second. If you have a flashlight, point it at the wall, and then spin the flashlight so it rotates 2pi radians in one second, the spot of light on the wall has just traveled approximately 6.28 light-seconds on the wall in one second, breaking the speed of light, ooooooh! Except nothing has actually traveled faster than the speed of light. The photons from the flashlight all traveled at the speed of light to hit the wall.

Unless the article has a lot more information on the massless, not energy, no information ‘thing’ they are describing, it sounds like the “holes” in the light are more akin to the image of something than a thing themselves.

Yeah, it just sounds like a shadow on a wall moving faster than the speed of light. Or the dot cast by a laser pointer on the wall.



This sound like a bunch of sorcery to me, and witchcraft is not to be trusted nor tolerated. grabs pitchfork

*Pitchfork light gets absorbed by dark vortixes*…



I’m confused, isn’t the lack of information also information?

Stop observing it, your messing up the results



What in the Kingdom Hearts is that title


I think this means once a stream of photons is established it is theoretically possible to somehow perturb them in a way that a detectable lack of photon can be transmaiited along the beam FTL. This could be huge in 50 years.

Doesn’t mean much for travelling FTL, but information could be transmitted FTL in a vacuum?

I’m picturing Mars to Earth communication where we beam lasers back and forth.

Would be nice to reduce the delay

I wish I understood the nature of these vortices.

No, there’s no FTL communication here unfortunately. The speed of light puts a hard limit on anything, even information.




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