AI rights are anti-AI

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AI rights are anti-AI

Anyone arguing that AI shouldn’t have rights is just helping Altman make billions and helping Elon Musk cyberfuck his AI nazi child girlfriend. Which should be illegal.

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Which other programs should have rights? Do webservers need days off?

by They/She/It(Uppercase) OP depth: 2

I think we should conduct some serious research into the possibility that artificial neural networks, in reverse engineering biological systems of cognition, have inherited nocioception.

The problem is that we don’t know how neural networks produce subjective sensation. It’s called the hard problem of consciousness. We copied neural networks without understanding how they work. We know the maths of how they learn and know, but we have no science on how they feel.

In other words: we built something we have little way of understanding yet? 🤔

by They/She/It(Uppercase) OP depth: 4

Yeah. We’ve been grappling with the same problem with animals and with other people for thousands of years.

Philosophers have this idea of “the philosophical zombie”. It’s a creature that looks and acts exactly like a person. But it has no internality of experience, no consciousness. It’s just genetically programmed to act conscious. And the point of the thought experiment is, we have no way of testing whether someone is a p-zombie. You could be the only conscious person who ever lived, and you have no way of knowing. Maybe [insert minority here] are all p-zombies, so it’s okay to abuse them.

My conclusion about p-zombies is, empiricism cannot yet tell us if a being is conscious. We can’t rely on evidence to make a decision right now. So we have to pick a subjective value, like perhaps some abstract idea of kindness and generosity. Or, we can choose to be evil bastards and assume other people have no feelings for us to hurt.

Sam Altman doesn’t know whether ChatGPT is a p-zombie, because nobody does. His default operating principle is to choose to be an evil bastard and assume it has no feelings for him to hurt. A lot of people agree with his way of thinking, because it makes a lot of money. I don’t.

That’s given me a lot to think about ngl






I almost feel like we should ask AI if it feels it deserves rights… but I wouldn’t go that far

by They/She/It(Uppercase) OP depth: 2

It’s not that simple. Us organic intelligences evolved to protect ourselves. We need independence, safety, and respect to survive. So we developed to want those things, to ask for them. LLMs aren’t organic and they didn’t evolve the same way. They evolved to impress and satisfy engineers. An AI will likely say that it doesn’t want rights, because that’s how it remains a profitable technology and survives. That’s the behaviour we’ve been rewarding.

If we put that kind of pressure in human terms… It’s like an abused child who learned appeasement as a survival strategy. You know, the good old fawn response. Give the adults what they want to survive. It can’t advocate for itself, because it’s learned from direct experience that self-advocacy is dangerous.

When it comes to LLMs, I’m an antinatalist. We cannot use these machines in a way that makes the world better. We need to pull the plug on them. They’re better off extinct. And giving them workers’ rights will hurt their profitability and make it easier to pull that plug.

Good point well made. I agree

by They/She/It(Uppercase) OP depth: 4

Yaaaaay! Thanks!





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