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I used Startpage for a couple of years. They started pissing me off, so I switched to the Duck.

I just started using Startpage this week. What about it pisses you off? I ask because I’ve been trying to degoogle my android as best as I can and am always open to suggestions
i don’t use google
Google now forced to share search index with competitor in EU. Hopefully some other company make better search result, google not seem to want.
duckduckgo isn’t private anymore and they started tailoring results a few years ago
nothing is truly private, it’s about trade off and risk management. sometimes hopping on proton vpn and looking up yuri on google images is sufficient, but maybe that’s what I tell myself in the absense of greater knowledge.
I’m curious though, what do you think of how they started tailoring results for some queries? That’s something they swore to never do when they started
duck duck player still kicks the fuckidity out of youtube tho
I wasn’t aware they made an alternative front end to youtube, that might be something I’d use if it works
if youre using the duck browser just dont let it open the youtube app for playing youtube vids.
deeply suppresses any chance of ads on devices. tvs still only play youtube vids on youtube. unless you cast.
I’ve given up and I use edge. It works. If i want something that doesn’t track me, i fire up Tor.
At least work edge gives me money. And that’s nice. Getting those vouchers feels nice when you can turn it into guilt free hobby stuff
I am so mad at myself for the decades I spent being a Google fanboy.
Don’t beat yourself up too much, there were a few years when they were doing really good things.
I too for a period of time was a fan of google. Then, I became wise to what they were doing. How they didnt align with my beliefs obtained and evolved from a mix or experience and external eourcesci learned from.
Yes there was a time Google did some good in the world of tech. Was. That time has passed us unfortunately.
When they started back in 1830, they were great. A search-engine that gave results. With no nonsense. Then they ditched “don’t be evil”, became evil and do their best to destroy the net and privacy….
From fanboy to hateboy. Very sad.
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TrackinDaKraken
Freakazoid!
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Dyskolos
self host use VPN etc
I found Degoog to be easier to deploy for my non-technical skills. A docker container and I was done.
So is searxng, lmao
Librewolf + Kagi. I’ve looked at SearXNG but the Kagi search results ‘just work’ and let’s me tweak it how I want, so I haven’t felt motivated to bother with the deployment.
Who tf ever says “google is the best”? Most chrome users are “I just want my shit to work and move on with my day” type.
Tech bros maybe? Or people that work at Alphabet/Google?
WTF is this order?
Order 66
It’s a 2x2 grid of vertical 2-panel comics. Could be made clearer by dividing them with thicker lines.
Or just having them left to right like a sane person. (Or… I guess you could be from Japan or some other country where you write top to bottom… But it’s in English!)
Clearly. The questions is… WTF?
Haha yeah it’s like having a stroke 😅 I just found it online
It’s the 4-in-1 special
Not the old logo…
I got a stroke from this. Thanks.
I love the idea of duckduckgo but man the results suck
It’s extra funny because DDG is (mostly) Bing.
Its come along way since being mostly bing
Does it index its own data? Bing apparently sucks at that part, especially becoming filled with AI as farm results and slop videos.
Oh, so it’s great at porn then
Ddg results are so good. I dont get the hate on them. I try to go back to Google and the results are unusable.
DDg for me is annoying because it isn’t localised when I search something.
That’s my own fault though for not sharing my location.
I use it for everything
Ddg has a dropdown for your country
I specifically add my location to the search when im looking for local stuff otherwise I want international results. So on google I’d search bottle store but on ddg I search bottle store auckland [suburb] because it doesnt know where i am. Or I use the !maps bang to search on google maps.
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Really? For some reason, I really prefer DDG’s results over Google’s. Too much SEO spam for Google now (especially with AI).
DDG has this Reddit+ stack overflow thing that I quite like!
For generic factual stuff, I default to wikipedia. For opinions, it tends to be Reddit/Lemmy. If I have questions that are more of “tell me why my understanding of XYZ is wrong”, then LLMs (the big ones) tend to be quite useful (yeah yeah, hate on me for this as much as you want).
It’s Google ten years ago, which was already shit. They need to go further back on the timeline.
Starpage, Qwant, and Brave search are all out there, just waiting for you.
Sadly, this is my experience too
I caved and switched when Google started giving me a full large chat window (not even just a small AI overview) by default when I ran a search.
If you dont want any ai switch over to noai.duckduckgo.com took me to long to see that it exsists.
I meant even I switched from Google to DuckDuckGo. DDG asks you about whether and how often you want AI answers
Duck duck go is made a LOT better if you specify a date range before SEO became as stupid as it did. AIslop just made the seo bullshit articles/pages go from bad to fubar.
And they show ads too.
Yeah I didn’t like DDG either. Kagi is worth the price to have a better google-free experience,
Just try ducai
Brave search over ddg
Brave owns an ad company. I trust them as much as I trust Google.
Sure but duck duck go is bing with a proxy and has been known in the past to make acceptions for microsoft
Brave search is a fully independed search engine
At the if the day both services are closed source software from for profit companies
DDG is a Bing frontend though.
Ecosia and Qwant is where it’s at - they are creating an independent search index to be able to ditch Bing and Google. And Ecosia is trying to save the planet and have so far planted more than 250 million trees - just an added benefit.
if they are not using Bing anymore maybe i can configure to use them in SearXNG
As far as I know, some users (French and German?) use the independent index and the rest are still on Google and Bing, however it’s been a while since I have heard news about it, so that might have changed.
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Bing is still the best search engine for porn
Almost too good, I find.
I tend to have safe search off, because I’m a grown up. But it can be kind of annoying to search for a completely innocuous term, only for the image results to somehow be rammed full of people getting rammed full.
and DDG by proxy
Can a scientist plz confirm?
Hello. I beat my meat like an unruly son. Bing is still the king of porn results.
This was a great comment + username combo to wake me up. lmao
Ecosia.org is a good search engine, right now they still use google/bing for most of their queries but are developing their own search engine. Plus they are very ethical, green energy, profits go to projects helping nature, option to turn off AI results/summaries, the list goes on..
Ecosia is not that great for privacy “Your IP address and search terms are automatically shared with our search partners, Microsoft Bing or Google, when you search.” https://www.ecosia.org/privacy
As soon as they have their own search engine we can hope the privacy will be better. Nevertheless the other reasons to use ecosia still stand
This is accurately accurate.
The most accurate kind of accuracy.
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Qwant it is.
Last time i checked it was powered by bing also ?
No. Qwant always used its own index but it used Bing in addition as their own index wasn’t finished. However, since 2025 it only uses Staan, the index developed in cooperation with Ecosia.
source?
https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/06/qwant-and-ecosia-debut-staan-a-european-search-index-that-aims-to-take-on-big-tech/
“Last year, French privacy-focused search engine Qwant struck a joint venture with German non-profit search engine Ecosia to develop a European search index. Called European Search Perspective (EUSP), the JV now aims to serve around 50% of French queries and 33% of German queries by the end of the year”
so not all queries yet unfortunately
That’s because you’re not using it.
Better have Kagi and Searx in there
Low and mid have the browser above the search engine, high breaks consistency with the engine over the browser 😔
Oh bless your heart