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Not a gun guy I feel like this would really good for blowing your own arm off.
I feel like your arm would probably hurt less than how hard the kickback shoots the gun unit itself into your face
It looks like a flare gun that a larger caliber rifle round happens to fit inside. I could be wrong about that but I really don’t think it’s meant to fire that round.
This would make Kentucky Ballistic’s neck itch.
Does the tip of the bullet protrude from the barrel?
Is this real? I imagine that would have worse recoil than a shotgun shell and I think they only do 410 shells in a handgun. Is there someone out there capable of firing this?
With a good weaver stance, proper lean, fingers over fingers grip, and firm isotension, who am I kidding this would suck ass.
From someone who has fired a .45-70 derringer, you’re absolutely correct. At a certain point, your wrist is getting torqued whether you like it or not.
sp3ctr4lA 45 70 derringer?
I mean… that is basically pretty close to what this appears to be…
But why? Who dared you to do that? They’re an asshole!
It’s a Rossi Riot, single shot 12 gauge pistol. It’s technically possible to fire .50 cal cartridges in a 12 gauge but it could wreck the gun.
Actually, the gun is completely safe. Many people have tested and confirmed this.
12 gauge is actually like .54 caliber so most of the expanding gas passes around the projectile without building pressure. The projectile leaves the barrel way slower than normal, but still fast enough to be lethal, and not very accurately.
It’s not the barrel. The case basically explodes in the chamber. Shotgun chambers aren’t built for that, and the extractor might not get the case out.
The case basically explodes in the chamber.
Yeah, that’s how firearms work.
When the gun and the cartridge match, the diameter of the projectile is slightly larger than the barrel bore. For example, a .357 magnum cartridge is .357 inches, stuffed into what’s ostensibly a .35 caliber gun. Gunpowder isn’t an explosive, it actually burns very slowly. It’s this very small size difference that allows pressure to build and create the chamber pressures advertised on the ammo box.
Of course a shotgun receiver can’t withstand the same pressure as a .50 BMG receiver, but that’s not what I said. I said a .50 BMG cartridge won’t create enough pressure in a 12 gauge receiver to damage it.
But, by all means, don’t take my word for it. There are plenty of videos of other people doing it and explaining it. Watch one of those instead.
Extraction and cycling are a whole other story, I’m not referring to that. 12 gauge shells are rimmed, .50 BMG is rimless, of course it probably won’t cycle in most shotguns.
Oh wow, thank you for explaining how guns work. You’re so smart!
It’s weird that my guns never destroy the brass. Does that mean they don’t work?
And I guess C4 isn’t an explosive either, because it burns slowly?
And I never said anything about the receiver. The chamber is a different part. And the cartridge will absolutely build up pressure before the bullet has time to leave.
Is your firearm knowledge just based on YouTube?
If this is a smooth bore barrel… then you’re loosing a fucking 50 cal that is not spin stabilized.
Oh god what a bad idea.
Wouldn’t matter if it was rifled. The bullet isn’t going to touch the barrel.
Like Dookieman said, the barrel is much larger than the bullet (actually ~0.7” vs 0.5"), so all the gasses go around the bullet. Still dangerous, but I’d be more worried about firing it than getting shot at with it.
Maybe not the same maker or model, but definitely real.
TrackinDaKrakenIt’s kinda hard to tell from this picture, but it looks like some kind of .308 or maybe .30-06 cartridge.
Single-shot handguns that fire large rifle rounds certainly exist and fire much larger rounds than that. Kentucky Ballistics on YouTube has many videos showing his collection of them. The video where Eddie Hall fires them all is a good vid where he shows many of them off.
If that’s a .308 cartridge, the gun would be too small to hold.
You’re just guessing on this stuff, aren’t you?
Is that a flare gun with a machine gun round in it?
It’s a single shot shotgun with a machine gun round in it. Will fire flares too, so technically, yes?
Flare guns tend to be a lot more… disposable, basically?
Like unironically the Pyro’s flare gun from TF2, made of plastic mostly.
I dunno, maybe there are much studier built flare guns, but I’ve not heard of em… unless you’re just talking about a grenade launcher firing a flare round or something?
ProbablyUnwiseI am seriously skeptical that that is a real gun that could fire without exploding, let alone you being able to hang on to it if it didn’t. you’re certainly not getting more than a couple shots max out of that before it and your hand is a mangled mess.
Like I said elsewhere… I think that’s a 50 BMG round.
… there are reasons why you almost never see break action / top break revolvers and pistols these days.
Mainly, they do not tend to do well with high chamber pressure.
A break action 50 BMG pistol?
That’s an overly expensive hand grenade, with an unreliable arming mechanksm, imo
https://www.bondarms.com/Cyclops-45-70–P8582.aspx
Not arguing about the mangled mess, but the concept at least is a real item
Your hand might take a beating, but the gun would be fine. Generally speaking, assuming there are no microfractures from manufacturing defects, if the steel and the design can withstand one shot, it can withstand tens of thousands. Assuming, of course, you perform the required PMCS and don’t fire so quickly as to overheat the steel.
Makes me think of the Ancient Arrows from Breath of the Wild that just remove the target from existence.
I’ve often struggled to determine the use case for these kinds of guns. If you’re hunting, surely a long gun in the same cartridge would be a better choice. If only for emergency defense against large animals while hiking, surely a revolver with a slightly smaller cartridge would be worth having five shots instead of one before having to reload, right?
Besides being a cool conversation piece or range toy, I’m not really sure what I’m supposed to do with something like this.
Quite literally, such a weapon only exists for you to flex with, that you can fire it and remain in control of the weapon, maybe even hit the intended target as well!
Its… this thing only exists because of dares.
There are more practical weapons for every use case that might even possibly qualify as uses this thing could have.
… I guess unless you are an actual WH40K spacemarine.
Yeah, revolvers are the classic ‘deep in the woods - wildlife defense handgun’… but 10mm and 5.7x28 semi autos are gaining popularity there.
A long gun in the same caliber as this would be an anti-materiel rifle… as in, designed to disable jeeps, power transformers, parked helicopters.
You are not going to have a fun time hauling a 30 lb war crime machine with you, into the woods.
justdaveisfineI think the only advantage these big bore single shot pistols have is that they’re relatively cheap compared to a revolver.
Not a situation I’d cheap out on but I could see someone doing it.
I just looked up the Rossi Brawler and it’s only $335, putting it around half the price as your cheapest .44 mag. I didn’t know they were that cheap, but it makes sense given the simple design. You can get it chambered in .300 blackout and it has a threaded barrel, so that’s pretty cool.
That’s still only a little bit cheaper than an AR-15, which is going to be more effective at just about everything, so it’s probably still not something I would go for, but I think I’m seeing the appeal now. If you just gotta be able to put 5.56, .45 colt, or whatever down range, and that’s all you can afford, it sure beats nothing.
Might as well just attach an m67 to the end of a handgun assembly
Is glock gonna release a carbine conversion kit with an underbarrel shot gun?
Just in case I need to do some door breaching, while I’m standing my ground?
NONE… That… looks like a break action ‘pistol’ that is firing 50 BMG.
If you fired one handed, or even two handed, while not being significantly yolked up…
This thing is flying out of your hand(s), probably into your face.
Or, just exploding.
I just want to thank everybody in this chat for hinting me towards Kentucky Ballistics. Didn’t know this peak entertainement existed.
ThePJNReminds me of the hunting pistol Lance Henrikson uses in Hard Target.
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In theory, could you even fire this without seriously injuring yourself(ignoring hearing loss)?
Even if it fires, it wouldn’t have much velocity. Large bullets have a lot of mass, so they need a lot of fuel to burn in order to get them up to speed. This fuel burns relatively slowly. That’s why large guns usually have long barrels as well. That allows for the fuel to completely burn and the expanding gasses to keep pushing the bullet all the way. The barrel can be too long, so usually it’s made such that a little bit of unburnt fuel comes out as the bullet exits. But with a small little thing like this, almost all the fuel would be thrown out with the bullet.
It would still be dangerous obviously, but I think much more dangerous for the person operating the device.
I’ve taken your notes into account and come up with a Mk. 2 design:
There’s still plenty of velocity to kill and it still hits harder than a .22 out of a rifle.
They aren’t even super terrible to to shoot as far as kick back and such, but I’d still call them pieces of shit. The rounds will sometimes tumble through the air, they’re inaccurate, and since they only hold one round, they’re kind of useless for something other than having around as a curiosity.
I’ve seen a few different models of these pocket sized single shot rifle round lobbers. They work. They’re deadly. They’re just kind of dumb.
recoil right into your forehead
Never getting robbed by a water buffalo on my way to work again
Do you live in Zootopia
Dis iz not enough daka.
This is just a single da
Does it come with some replacement carpal bones included or do I have to get them separately?
Keep your booger hook near the bang switch and keep them hopping!
Enough with a kitty at home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYe0DLK0f4