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Google's New Remote Attestation Scheme is As Bad As Its Old One
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“an experimental initiative that will let companies block users if they are running independent, “de-googled” versions of Android”
lol, that is quite alright… saving me the effort of figuring out what scumbags they are in a less convenient way. I don’t want to be doing business with these people anyway.
Behold a party full of creeps and corrupt capitalists. YOU aren’t allowed in!
Yeah man, that’s why i went out of my way to not go to your stupid party to begin with.
Oh no, punish me by making me go outside and engage in my community. Oh nooooo less brain rot doomscrolling.
I was kinda disappointed that the article didn’t offer any suggestions for how to “push back” on attestation being shoved down our throats.
…it seems governments and companies are doubling down on attestation, in the form of mandatory age verification.
I’m fully ready to push back (heck I don’t have a choice, since my devices don’t support this shit), however it’s troublesome that most of the population doesn’t care because pushing back is inconvenient. I think being a corporate & government slave is more inconvenient, but a lot of people can’t connect the dots or see where society is going
A significant part of the problem is the W3C making the standards relevant to web browsers and servers so complicated that the purported objective of allowing anyone to build a browser is defeated. While it is technically true that anyone can build a conformant browser, it is practically impossible for anyone without the resources of companies like Google, Apple and Microsoft to keep up. New, independent implementations are almost impossible due to the technical complexity and the anti-competitive practices of the incumbents.
According to this report:
As of 2026, three engines account for virtually all browser rendering globally.
Those are: Blink, WebKit and Gecko
What’s needed is new standards that restore the practical possibility for others to develop a compatible browser. That would help resolve or avoid this problem and many other problems that are similarly rooted in vendors attempting to control the user’s data and experience.
Don’t forget proprietary features like DRM video that is actually completely impossible for anyone new since only Google etc have the licence to implement those technologies
PikaI was going to add this. Yea Google is notorious for refusing to license new browsers for usage of the DRM’s they own and maintain, instead stringing them along for years at a time without ever rejecting it, so they can give the image that they aren’t suppressing competition.
apologize, just now noticed this is a 2 week old comment.
Is it bad to reply to 2 week old comments? I thought it was fine here
☭可爱小猫☭I remember replying to a post about a 6 year old and surprisingly the OP replied!
Those are: Blink, WebKit and Gecko
Ladybird enters the chat
Yes, exactly. Laydybird was started in 2019 and only this year is expected to publish an alpha release and hoping for a beta release in 2027 and first stable release in 2028, confirming that it is too difficult. And what are the chances that those targets will not slip? And how much will the specification change in the meantime? It shouldn’t take a decade to write a conformant browser. A simpler specification would allow more projects to deliver compliant browsers.
confirming that it is too difficult
That statement bumps with the reality that is being built.
It shouldn’t take a decade to write a conformant browser.
I agree.
A simpler specification would allow more projects to deliver compliant browsers.
Also agree.
Saying it was “started in 2019” without mentioning SerenityOS and the single person that was writing it all at the time is a bit disingenuous. It was just a single component within an entire OS that was also being written from the ground up (also entirely by one person). It was in 2022 that it was spun out into its own project because of the community interest in it.
I don’t mean to disparage anyone’s efforts. I linked the WikiPedia page to provide the context. I hope the interest grows and they achieve a stable release.
Just one quibble:
The only reason to make a dishwasher that refuses a rival’s dishes is if the manufacturer’s own dishes are ugly, expensive, and/or badly made
No, greed is reason enough. If they think they can get away with it, they would do that whether the dishes are good or bad, just to maximize how much money they can squeeze out of their customers.
There has too been talk about Google using it to block desktop OSs like Linux. By requiring validation against a QR you have to scan from an Android or iOS phone.
I swear I saw that URL 5 times before realizing it probably doesn’t belong to Redhat.
DFX4509BThis smells of two odors: 1) Retaliation against the GrapheneOS deal with Lenovo/Moto Mobility and 2) Getting desktop users rounded up into the Google ecosystem before the launch of AluminumOS.
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Feels opposite to an authentiverse.