"Bro, CLEARLY this is a sign from the gods to build our capital in a swamp!"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenochtitlan#History
Not so sure about the health conditions of living in a swamp, but it is metal af symbolism.
Plus their origin and how they decided to flay their host’s daughter has always made the Mexicas/Aztecs my favorite evil empire.
How did they decide to flay?
I think I would make a disservice to history by trying to summarize it, so I just bluntly copied from this link: “Based on these codices as well as other histories, it appears that the Mexicas arrived at Chapultepec in or around the year 1248.
At the time of their arrival, the Valley of Mexico contained many city-states, the most powerful of which were Culhuacan to the south, and Azcapotzalco to the west. The Tepanecs of Azcapotzalco soon expelled the Mexicas from Chapultepec. In 1299, Culhuacan ruler Cocoxtli gave them permission to settle in the empty barrens of Tizapan, where they were eventually assimilated into Culhuacan culture.
In 1323, the Mexica asked the new ruler of Culhuacan, Achicometl, for his daughter, in order to make her the goddess Yaocihuatl. Unbeknownst to the king, the Mexicas actually planned to sacrifice her. As the story goes, during a festival dinner, a priest came out wearing her flayed skin as part of the ritual. Upon seeing this, the king and the people of Culhuacan were horrified and expelled the Mexicas.
According to Aztec legend, the Aztecs were shown a vision of an eagle perched on a prickly pear cactus, clutching a snake in its talons. This vision indicated that this was the location where they were to build their home. In any event, the Aztecs eventually arrived on a small swampy island in Lake Texcoco where they founded the town of Tenochtitlan in 1325. In 1376, the Mexicas elected their first Huey Tlatoani, Acamapichtli, who was living in Texcoco at the time.”
Note to extend this: The Mexicas were basically banished to the worse place possible, which lacked food, was full of venomous snakes and they were exposed to attacks in a mud-like barren land.
In fact, the snake has a direct relationship to the harsh realities of their banishment (basically venomous snakes) and how they conquered over that land (Tenochtiltlan, the Venice of America).
That’s disgusting.
“We can say that was bit of a cultural faux pas. Take note IztaXochitl, from now onwards when we will flay someone, we should ask in advance.”
I’m gonna go ahead and side with the ones who aren’t flaying people and wearing their skins…
Can you imagine seeing some dude wearing your daughter’s skin like that? After you willingly gave her to them because they said they were gonna deify her?
Fuck that noise. It’s the makings of a real life horror movie.
Kafka meets Lovecraft…
@massive_bereavement @PugJesus @IncogCyberSpaceUser Blessed greetings. Are you a Catholic Christian?
By flaying. It was a radical new idea at the time.
Listen, lad. I built this kingdom up from nothing. When I started here, all there was was swamp. Other kings said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show ‘em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one… stayed up! And that’s what you’re gonna get, lad: the strongest castle in these islands.
DC is also a swamp, literally and figuratively
IIRC, the best part is that DC is where it is specifically because it was a bribe to get the slave states on board, since previously the federal government had been based in Philadelphia. So yeah, the US doesn’t even have the excuse of divine revelation for setting up the capital in a swamp, but because somehow that was enough to appease white slavers.
My favorite civilization, you cannot be more metal than ancient Mexico.
They had priests walking around in suits made of human skin, the entire skin of a person, like some macabre handie/footie pajamas. And those were the nice ones. Towers of thousands of skulls, historians thought it had to be a Spanish exaggeration until they found it. Thousands of people would be sacrificed for one “holiday” (and eaten). Unbelievably brutal. Also, best God pantheon hands down.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xipe_Totec
That guy from golden kamuy making outfits from human skin really would have fit in.
What is it with ancient civilizations and letting birds decide where to build cities? I guess Rome was lucky they got a hill.
tbf, a lot of swampy terrain around Rome too. Malaria was killer (literally) in the city for that very reason.
We choose to build over a swamp and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard
From what I read Mexica arrived late to those territories and simply couldn’t get better land. In the end they got lucky. They were not able to grow enough food on the island so fish, birds and eggs formed big part of their diet. This made their warriors better at doing warrior things for reasons we’re not sure about. Maybe it was because they were not tied to farming calendar as much or maybe it was the extra protein. They eventually conquered all the neighboring tribes and built a nice city on that island.
Berlin is also build on a swamp, whats going on here?
Great nations put their capitols in swamps.
But for real, wetlands are very fertile and typically next to major rivers, lakes, and other navigable or fishable bodies of water. Major cities really like those things.
Oh wow good explanation ty
They made it work!
The Spaniards, not so much.