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Ohio will continue to allow child marriage after push to end practice fails in legislature
MicroWaveAdvocates were baffled that the bill didn’t pass, given that it had no public opposition
Senate Bill 341 would have ended a loophole letting 17-year-olds marry legal adults up to four years older than them with court approval and seemed bound for passage. No one testified against it during its five public readings, and it had the support of youth advocates and the Catholic church.
The legislation had a pair of bipartisan sponsors, and it passed the state Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously on Wednesday, the last full day before the summer recess began. Despite the initial momentum in the Senate, the bill never passed there in a full floor vote, and it had yet to be introduced in the House.
Still, campaigners and lawmakers said it was “mind-boggling” that the bill has not progressed. “It’s just unbelievable that a bipartisan common sense bill that has no opposition from the public, that costs nothing, it has a $0 price tag…it harms no one except creepy men who prey on teenage girls,” Fraidy Reiss, founder of the non-profit Unchained At Last, which campaigns against child marriage, told the Ohio Capital Journal.
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“It’s just unbelievable that a bipartisan common sense bill that has no opposition from the public, that costs nothing, it has a $0 price tag…it harms no one except creepy men who prey on teenage girls”
Yep. Stay classy, Ohio…
I agree with that quote, but I would be morbidly interested to see the male to female split on the pedophilic marriages. I assume it’s heavily skewed towards creepy men, but Id guess there have been some creepy women too.
It’s skewed towards harcore religious people that support it. That is what defeated this.
In a recent 2024 study:
…between 2000 and 2019. Over 75 % of all married children in each state were girls. Girls married men who were an average of 4 years older than they were, and the age gap was substantially larger when girls married than when boys married.
Thanks. I assumed it was heavily that way, but 75% is probably lower than I would have guessed.
I bet the ratio is something like 500:1
When you look up child marriage statistics in the us the numbers are much higher than you would expect though.
Republicans are fixated with kids.
zeppoI think they mean something different by “family values”
It’s amazing how Republicans continually do the things that highlight their passion for youth genitalia. This could have been the easiest win to try and save face for all of the shit going in, and they just doubled down. There really is no excusing that if you’re a Republican you are on team pedophile. It was already clear in their support for Trump, opposition to releasing the Epstein files, and how seemingly every politician busted for CP is Republican, but they can’t even do the most basic, publicly visible thing to not further perpetuate the statistically backed stereotype.
It’s literally any day now before they just become mask off about it. Like they have about the two tiered justice system
So i’m really confused. SB341 initially passed in the state senate with a small portion voting for it, and was sent to the judicial committee. The house version, HB670 was sent directly to judicial. I don’t see an action that says this is dead (but going to committee is a common pathway to let bills die without any press or fanfare. Extremely common for things that the population wants but the politicians do not want to die this way.)
Almost all of the sponsors are democrats, 24 of 43 total. Only 6 republicans sponsored this of 89 in total, so clearly it’s not a big priority for R.
https://legiscan.com/OH/votes/SB341/2025 / https://legiscan.com/OH/bill/HB670/2025
TrickDacyit’s not a big priority for R.
If Republicans have one priority, it’s fucking children.
Captain Poofterthey buried an important word in the headline: PUBLIC opposition.
no public opposition
If you go online and insult the Epstein class you’ll likely get hatemail about how you’re not being fair. The opposition is very private and individualized.
I’m certain if we checked the local Fox News station there was plenty of opposition floating around
I read the article but was not really understanding WHY anyone would be opposed to ending it, so I went looking for more information. Turns out the group sponsoring the legislation, Unchained At Last, has its own site, and much more information than is in the article, as well as maps showing how many states have outlawed child marriage altogether, as well as the handful of states where you can be married at 18 but not be legally adult until 21, which is still a form of legal underage marriage.
I had my eyes opened. There is much more information on each of these in the website, but the four reasons they state for needing to end underage marriage are:
Child marriage can easily be forced marriage. The age of majority, when children become legal adults and get the rights of adulthood, is 18 or higher in every U.S. state. Children who have not yet reached the age of majority have limited legal rights and therefore can easily be forced into marriage or forced to stay in a marriage. They face overwhelming legal and practical barriers if they try to leave home to escape a forced marriage, get help from an advocate, enter a domestic violence shelter or retain an attorney. Perhaps most shockingly, children typically are not allowed to initiate a legal proceeding – such as seeking a protective order or even filing for divorce – unless they act through a guardian or other representative. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights categorizes all child marriage as forced marriage.
Child marriage destroys nearly every aspect of American children’s lives, including their health, education and economic opportunities. It even undermines their physical safety: Individuals in the U.S. who were married before age 18 report high rates of physical, sexual, financial or emotional abuse during their marriage as well as unwanted or unplanned pregnancies.
Child marriage undermines statutory rape laws. In most states and under federal law, sex with a child that would otherwise be considered rape – in some cases, felony rape – becomes legal within marriage. In those situations, the marriage license becomes a “get out of jail free” card for a child rapist.
Child marriage can also be a form of human trafficking. Due to loopholes in immigration laws, thousands of American girls are being trafficked legally for their citizenship, forced to marry adult men from overseas so the men can get a U.S. visa. Similarly, American men are legally importing child brides from overseas.
So now the question becomes one of understanding what’s in it for the Republicans in Ohio to leave the situation as-is, and I think that pretty much answers itself. Case closed.
I was sort of in the same headspace as you. I graduated high school at 17, and some of my friends married their high school sweethearts that June. I dated a senior as a freshman, so if we had gotten serious, I could have been ready to get married at 17.
But all of the points you bring up are valid reasons to make a younger graduate wait a few extra months to get married.
Not to mention that getting married right out of high school hasn’t been a widely successful life choice for a few generations now. It mostly worked up until my parents’ generation, but that was probably more to do with cultural expectations and legal barriers to divorce. None of my late GenX friends who did it stayed with their spouses for more than a few years.
No public opposition, but some very quiet private opposition? No worries, there’s a method to end run around an errant legislature in most US states: https://www.ohiosos.gov/office/duties-and-responsibilities/putting-an-issue-on-the-ballot/citizen-initiated-constitutional-amendment
How about instead of being baffled you just go ASK the people who voted against it why? It’s not like it’s a secret ballot or anything…
This feels like a game of, all together now, “Which Evil Is It??”
Is it because they are abusive pedophiles who want fodder for their kind, or is it because they are evil capitalists who want fodder for their factories?
Por que no los dos, am I right?
Senate Bill 341 would have ended a loophole letting 17-year-olds marry legal adults up to four years older than them
What’s wrong with that???
Not surprised, just disappointed. The state government doesn’t care about its citizens, morality, or popular opinion on issues.
My ex married her first husband when she was a minor in Ohio and it really fucked her up.
Well project 2025 plans to undo child marriage laws. So they don’t want to pass a law they will have to undo later (from Republicans perspective).
project 2025 plans to undo child marriage laws.
I’m pretty familiar with Project 2025, but I don’t recall that. The actual Project 2025 manifesto, 🤢 *Mandate for Leadership* 🤮 mentions marriage in a number of ways, including same-sex and even interracial marriage, but there’s nothing in it about child marriage at all that I know of or can find, just a lot of self-righteous hyperbole about cis-het marriage and the family unit being the root of all good, blah blah blah.
I just checked it again to be sure, and yeah, marriage is not ever mentioned adjacent to anything regarding the age of the participants.
I’m not trying to challenge you, they’re guilty of almost everything they’ve ever been accused of and far more that’s even worse, but can you tell me where you got that from? Because if they’re going to start this too I’d like to know more about it.
Ah I think I’m misremembering where I got that from. Maybe heritage foundation. I tried googling but I can’t find the source. I watched some of their “training” videos.
I’m sure I saw something where there was a plan to lower age of marriage for girls. Maybe it was just from a few nutty conservatives. But I was pretty sure there was something in there about trying to get girls to have babies while still teenagers. And being religious, the girls need to be wed.
Sorry I can’t find any credible source so I can only assume I’m mixed up or I heard it from an un-credible source and can’t remember.
Only thing I found was a few stories on nutty conservatives.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/missouri-mike-moon-defends-child-marriage_n_64372e01e4b0ac40918962ff
No, that’s great. It’s the difference between actual policy initiative, which will get real tax dollars and resources thrown behind it, and just something the average MAGA christofascists want, which was never a big secret. This is a relief. Thank you for looking, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer.
Am I the only one who thinks this is not such a big deal? The article says child marriage is already prohibited except a “Romeo and Juliet” provision
Senate Bill 341 would have ended a loophole letting 17-year-olds marry legal adults up to four years older than them with court approval
Someone of any age can marry an 18 year old, but if you want to marry a 17 year old you better be close in age and get a court to approve? That already prohibits child marriage while being flexible in limited circumstances. The bill would have only removed the flexibility.
You could certainly argue it’s not limited enough or I don’t know if courts are too quick to approve, but it’s not like child marriage is wide open
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Release the voting information. Name and shame the people who voted against it.
There can be reasons it didn’t pass besides the name.
Okay, I did some quick research. This looks like a clean bill. Republicans don’t want to pass it because it might increase abortion rates.
It does only move the legal age from 17 to 18, and at 17 it does require judicial review. However getting married under 18 is a problem because you have limited rights before you’re 18. It’s difficult to get out of an abusive marriage, for instance, before you’re 18.
Harming children because they want to continue harming women.
Brick your local GOP.
Let’s be Chaotic Good barbarians.
A Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?
You got it in one. :)
In CA, you can get married at any age, as long as a judge agrees to the marriage… but it is illegal to get divorced before 18. How fucked is that?!
Yeah, that’s some feed for a good depression.
The article says it wasn’t brought up for a vote.
I read the article, and it says it didn’t pass a floor vote in the Senate and didn’t go to a vote in the House.
Because there was no floor vote in the Senate. The Ohio Senate page isn’t loading for me but here’s another article: https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2026/06/15/a-bill-banning-child-marriage-passed-out-of-committee-but-the-ohio-senate-did-not-vote-on-it/
Things to do in Ohio: leave.
Unfortunately, the victims of these communities are the least likely to be able to do that.
most of ohio did go to trump though.
When I lived in Michigan, I would frequently see a bumper sticker that said:
From the Wright brothers too in Neil armstrong, the history of Ohio has been the history of people finding more elaborate ways to get as far away from Ohio is possible as quickly as possible
I love my home state of Michigan but one of the few gripes about it that I have is our only two land-linked neighbors we can drive to are Indiana and motherfucking Ohio.
speaking from the Lower Peninsula aren’t ya?
Yes 😔
I’d love to!
Now if anyone wants to donate to my Moving Fund…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY
Yeah, I see the problem right there. * gestures vaguely at legislature full of creepy men who prey on teenage girls *
they probably would be the judges of a beauty pageant for young girls.
The douchebag that married my half-sister when she was 15–16* and he was 21–22* was from Ohio, so I’ll just register my lack of surprise.
*Ages approximate because I’ve never been close to that side of my blood.
Ohio 💀
US pedocracy in action.
We need to PROTECT Children from
RAPISTS!SEX TRAFFICKERS!UNDERAGED MARRIAGE!NOT having their Genitals Inspected by Strangers!-Republican Voters LITERALLY!
They’ll probably do a genital inspection on every young girl before she gets married…you know, just to make sure those perverted trans folk aren’t getting married.
I’m guessing it is the same elderly white men who are also calling for younger people to be having babies that voted this down.
Who is the lobby for this and why the hell aren’t they already on a list?
They are on a list.
Not that a full client list ever existed.
At least it’s not whatever state(s) allow 12 year olds to marry. Or whatever other horrible shit I read about some old piece of shit advocating last year. Ffs, just let the southern states go. That doesn’t geographically include Ohio, but we can make an exception. A lot of midwest states who aren’t in the south can go too.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140430173729/http://fuckthesouth.com/
California allows marriage at ANY age. There is no minimum, as long as a judge agrees to let the marriage happen. So it isn’t just Southern states.
While I don’t normally turn to religious institutions, I’ll use this one because I think it bolsters my position:
https://www.themonastery.org/marriage-laws/california
From the link you yourself posted: “In California, the law says only adults 18 years of age or older can marry, though there are exceptions made for minors under 18 with parental consent who also obtain a court order. "
I’ve lived in CA likely longer than you have been alive. I also seem to have much better reading comprehension. Legal marrying age has been a big issue for a long time now, with the ACLU fighting to KEEP the laws intact. You might love CA and think it can do no wrong, but wait till you find out that not only can kids under 18 get married as long as a judge agrees, but those same kids cannot legally get divorced. How fucked up is that?
You should take a breath, learn that all places have weird, fucked up laws, and take this as a lesson that you aren’t as smart as you think you are.
I don’t mean to make a joke about this but was there no public opposition because they are legally not allowed to vote, and thus aren’t part of the legislation.
as above so below giving devils control
While obviously legislation like this should pass to ban child marriages on the books. I just want people to know that this would not do much to stop the practice in the majority of cases.
It is true that it would reduce this abuse to some degree. Or at the very least give the groomed children more time to develop and realize they are being abused. It would be a good step.
However, the majority of these marriage arrangements are already in place in these communities long before they go “on the books”. It is usually extremely patriarchal religious communities where women and girls are not only subject to usual patriarchal structures of our society, but to a form of oppression, different from but on the same level as an apartheid state.
These communities definitely stay protected in the rare instances of any form of law enforcement by these types of laws. But, it is on the level of black people “technically” being allowed to vote in the Jim Crow south. Getting rid of a law like this will not change to the structures of enforcement or the communities that allow these abuses to happen today. The Jim Crow south needed federal law enforcement to enforce its abolishment. That’s why I make the comparison. The local law enforcement are literally the people that uphold the patriarchal structures and abuse to begin with.
Unfortunately, the real solution to these issues is not what anyone wants to hear. These communities need to be broken apart, they need fundamental reeducation, and the children of these communities need to be separated from the abusers. This often means separating children from their mothers; as the women in this society are both victims and abusers.
The adults need to be subject to mental health care and reeducation to give them the opportunity to show they can function outside of the abusive community they were born into.
These are communities built to abuse and oppress children and women. They are Nazi like societies that should be treated as such.
We have a long way to go when we can’t even get a simple law like this passed. And it’s really depressing.
There is a reason why these marriages are still allowed even in states like CA. They use the reasoning of, “it’s going to happen anyway, so we need to be aware of it so we can provide support systems and services.”
Honestly yes pretending we don’t need to do something about fundamentalist Christians means that they just keep abusing children
The diarrhea must continue forever, puppies are unfeasible.