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Only one in 10 Europeans now see US as an ally, survey suggests
MicroWaveExclusive: poll across 15 countries finds ‘deep mistrust’, with majority doubting US would come to their aid in an attack
European confidence in an American “security guarantee” has hit a historic low, a survey suggests, with only one in 10 people across 15 countries seeing the US as an ally and majorities in all doubting it would come to their aid if they were attacked.
The survey, published on Wednesday by the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR) thinktank before critical G7 and Nato summits in France and Turkey over the coming weeks, revealed “deep European distrust in the US”, the authors said.
It also showed that, while many Europeans felt relations with Washington would improve once Donald Trump leaves office, they were increasingly ready in the meantime to protect themselves against US unreliability by bolstering Europe’s defence.
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10%, still more than I’d have expected
Unfortunately we do have our share of local fascists.
My Norwegian mother. She’s been in the US twice in her life, but still thinks Trump will save the world. She’s 75. No reasoning with her.
I wish the fascists had only 10% of the vote.
Me too. And Germany’s as well. Unfortunately the percentage of moronic fascists does not seem to be evenly spread between European countries.
This is from the last EU Parliament election.
Meloni party is full of incompetent post-fascists, but they are your typical corrupt national-conservative party. They are not “extreme” in their views. Removing kids adoption from gay parents is actually mild as far as italian social conservatism goes.
No wonder, USA has consistently worked against European interests since Trump became president.
The list goes to 11!!
- Putting extra tariffs on imports from Europe.
- Threatening to take Greenland by force.
- Abandoning numerous international agreements and organizations.
- Threatening Canada which EU absolutely consider a friend and ally.
- Often supporting Russia not enforcing trade sanctions, and supporting Russia in the UN.
- Failing to support Ukraine despite promises to do so for Ukraine giving up their Nuclear arsenal.
- Starting a moronic war against Iran, that is harmful to the global economy, including Europe.
- Threatening to abandon NATO and not respect article 5, making USA all but completely irrelevant as an ally.
- Not just failing to respect but directly sabotaging The International Criminal Court.
- Sabotaging the World Trade Organization by paralyzing the appeals court, and failing to contribute financially.
- Degrading international law in numerous ways, with illegal activities like kidnapping Maduro, blockade of Cuba and attack on Iran.
Clearly by their behavior, USA is acting like an enemy to Europe and EU. More so than China!!
Th4tGuyIIExactly. With an ally like Trump’s USA, we hardly need enemies
Mind you, openly defying the ICC (and thus subverting the idea of a rules-based world order) and breaking the WTO are much older than the Trump administration. Randomly fucking with foreign countries has been going on ever since the USA had the ability to project power.
The USA have been a bad friend for a long time. They had a bit of a redemption in the 40s but just kept coasting on that one moment (and fear of a belligerent neighbor), assuming that their popularity comes from them being inherently awesome and always right. The luster was already rubbing off in the 2000s with Bush’s bullshit wars.
But now Trump is openly showing that the States feel entitled to whatever they want, are simultaneously subservient to much smaller foreign powers, and have zero respect for human rights, long-time friends, the values they supposedly stand for, and themselves. The belligerent neighbor they’ve been using to prop up their image is a broken man now and they kiss his feet.
Uncle Sam is not just a bad friend, he’s a washed-up unstable asshole whom nobody in the friend group actually likes but who keeps showing up and threatening people if he’s not included.
They’re acting like an enemy to themselves. Almost as if Trump was working for someone else that wants to harm the US. Hmm….
It’s exactly what Putin wanted.
vpolYes, he made poor Americans elect imbecile. Twice.
Literally helped Trump get elected so yeah
Exactly what I’m saying. He single handily replaced brain of millions of Americans with shit.
Indeed. Divide and conquer. Brexit was an enormous win for him as well.
Please… Putin didn’t change public opinion in the US, he merely fed the fire. America has been a deeply troubled country since long before Trump. The American elite owns decadent amounts of capital. And for decades they have invested that wealth to influence politics, workers rights, taxes, enviromental legislation, legal rulings and whatnot.
EvasiveSpeciesYeah, no shit. America has a mentally unstable demented and self-defecating pedophile rapist as their leader who keeps threatening to take over other countries and is copying 1930s Germany as a guide. Not to mention all the tariffs and other shitty decision him and his idiot supporters make that keep negatively affecting their and our citizen.
American Right in 2016. “We need Trump because the rest of the world is laughing at us!”
Same folks in 2026. “Who cares about what anyone else says! We’re the USA and we don’t care!!”
They made it pretty clear that they don’t like Europe. Why would Europeans still see them as allies?
let me guess its the far-right, and right wingers that sees it as an ally like wise the same group also supports russia.
samus12345Yeah, I don’t see it as an ally to myself, and I live here.
I like US as a commercial partner and ally of the EU. The US did a lot for the EU in the past. However I do not like how the US is behaving towards the EU lately and towards the world in general. I don’t like how our politicians are accepting pityful conditions. I don’t necessarily want us to reject the US, but we should have a firm line. And hopefully their government will change soon…
rose56Nothing wrong with that! Now ban USA from sports and impose tarrifs, easy as that. They wanted peace, now they have a war and oil.
MoonRavenIf they get a Mamdani-like president in 2 years, I bet you that will change and people will forget aaaaaall about the misdeeds of the U.S. “oh, they were always good”. It would be terrible for the rest of the world.
No, and we haven’t forgotten the Bush presidency either 2001-2009, and his comment about being either with or against USA, when he started a war based on false intelligence. Maybe electing him once could be forgiven, but that he was elected for a 2nd term, was already a very strong warning, that the American population cannot be trusted.
Obama restored a lot of that trust, because he was the first president of color, which gave hope that the American population was ready to move on from the policies of Bush, and Obama was very liked in Europe, and he was an amazing politician.
But even under Obama we had problems, where Obama claimed USA had found a good balance in their level of secret intelligence, the balance being control of the secret services by a secret group of politicians, and regulated by secret courts, and only respecting civil rights of Americans. He also conducted illegal drone strikes that are estimated to have cost 70000 innocent civilian lives.
But despite such insane examples of American exceptionalism, Obama was very liked in Europe.
Enter Trump! Trump tore apart the agreement with Iran, he threaten that USA might leave NATO, claiming that NATO was a relic that wasn’t needed anymore, he constantly criticized allies for not lifting their part of the burden, completely failing to understand the nature of the alliances USA had. The election of Trump more than anything else, showed allied countries that USA was unreliable.
Enter Biden, and yes the pendulum swung the other direction, but far from all the way. Relations became way more civil, but relations were not strengthened much, what was ruined by Trump was not repaired, and Biden failed to patch up many of the destructive things Trump had destroyed, like for instance the nuclear agreement with Iran.
Biden also failed in helping Ukraine nearly as much as the financial aid would indicate, putting strong limitations on Ukraine to not attack oil industries, and even preventing Ukraine from attacking into Russia at all! Making it near impossible for Ukraine to defend themselves efficiently. Biden helped Ukraine defend themselves, but at the same time helped Russia to not lose too.
Enter Trump 2nd term, and we now have a shitshow where USA is actively worse than China regarding EU interests.
I already listed 11 points where USA is working against European interests.
And mind you this list exist despite what Americans call checks and balances!!!!
We have now been shown with certainty, that the American population cannot be trusted, and that the American democracy cannot be trusted to prevent an insane president from utterly destroying everything it is in the power of USA to destroy.
There are zero guarantees that another American president would be stopped from repeating what Trump has done, or maybe going even further!!
The move by the world to achieve independence from USA is not something that is being considered, it is something that has already started, and it is all encompassing, from trade and defense to technologies where USA is currently dominating.
This will not be stopped, even if the next president of USA is as popular as Obama was.
America first has truly become America alone, exactly as Hillary Clinton predicted.
Not really.
We already had the “now everything will get better” moment when Obama replaced Bush Jr. and brought promises of change and the USA becoming a better country. He was a lame duck for many reasons but he did make an effort to short up the country’s reputation.
Bush had demonstrated that the USA were perfectly capable of suddenly tearing up agreements that had been stable for decades. Obama’s case was that this was a one-time slip-up, that the USA were still a reliable and trustworthy partner. It was a hard case to make on an international stage where treaties are expected to remain stable for decades if not centuries but he made that point by leaning on the States’ accumulated goodwill as a trade partner.
Then Trump I shat all over that and made clear that no, American policy could pivot on a dime and having to renegotiate everything every four years was just the cost of doing business with the USA these days. And you better did business with the USA on their terms or they’d get mad.
Biden tried to do an Obama but a) was even more of a lame duck and b) tried to argue a point that had become thoroughly implausible at this point.
Trump II now shows us that four years was actually restrained by American standards and that American policy can now change whenever and however he wants it to, continuity and common sense be damned. L’Etat c’est lui. On a stage where a decade is a short time he changes the country’s tenor on a weekly basis.
The EU’s reaction? Trade deals with just about everyone else. Mercosur. Canada. Japan. The UK. Singapore. Vietnam. New Zealand. Ukraine. Moldova. Georgia. Kenya. Plus several others in early stages. Which European trade deals are staling out? The ones with the USA and China.
The world is pivoting away from the USA because it lost its trust in America as a trade partner and it’s going to take decades of concentrated and stable good-faith effort to regain that trust. The States won’t just have to make a case for keeping them as a preferred partner but for making them a preferred partner again. The hurdle is higher now.
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I’m an American and I see our federal government and corporations as openly hostile to me too.
Yep was about to say that myself. As an American America is not my Ally.
Another American here also feeling the same.
Ditto
It really sucks. i hope you and your loved ones will be able to live in a free and democratic country with a social safety net some day. All the best to you!
I’m amazed it’s that high
Thats probably a lower rate than current European support for.. hitler. or putin.
Someone in the previous comments said Amerrica is a cancer, but I bet we probably still have higher polling rate than actual cancer. ..Probably.
I’m sure it is. There seems to be a serious Nazi problem all throughout Europe right now too
I can cut out cancer, irradiate it, treat it with chemo
All I want it’s for the US to fuck off, sit in the corner and stop interfering for the benefit of a handful of rich cunts who will happily watch the world burn, just to accumulate more of something they already have more than they could ever use
Not surprising. The US is now a rogue state.
Im guessing that one in ten is the european maga equivalents.
You’re looking for the word morons
Same same really
Salt of the earth, common clay of the mid west…
I shit you not. I have seen red MAGA caps here in Australia, and they are not on US tourists.
I can’t even……
I believe you call them bogans?
Ive heard that. sounds crazy but then I look at how the nazi flags are not uncommon with their trump and its like huh. they just love to love on each other. seriously maga caps, nazi symbol, confederate flag. its all in the same bucket here.
Which seems low because in many European countries the pin striped Nazi MAGA like parties that have long been feted by the republicans are polling much higher than that (UK, Germany, France)
1 in 10 ? that number is too damn high !
There is always that guy or girl with an american flag tattooed that tells you how great it is and that tgey wishes they could move to texas or something
80 years of investing in soft power down the drain. I’m the nineties people looked up to America. Every movie maar you interested in American culture.
Great again yet?
Era of great American media seems to have ended. So few good movies or shows anymore. Just one cop drama show after another and 5 star out of 10 rated movies. Even reddit sucks. Used to train AI and run by a zionist war crimes cheerleader.
I’m surprised it’s that high.
srsly. Gotta find that one guy and tell them how it is
We have more than 10% of people who want to emulate the USA, I’m not surprised some of them are stupid enough to think that.
As an American: fair. We have been proving to be quite the assholes (understatement) lately.
I hope that someday we can gain that trust back but that won’t be for quite sometime and only if we can make a major turn for the better.
There is always one mother fucker!!!
So we still have a chance with European girls, is what you’re saying.
Nab one and become European if you can.
The US is a fucking jokeeeee hahahaha
I do believe (maybe naively) if Europe was attacked, that the US would help, probably wouldn’t need them, but it would be more to their advantage to help, than if they didn’t. But I don’t trust the US in terms of keeping their “house” in order. The big companies that are around the world heavily lobbying, breaking laws and encouraging blatant corruption, came from there and now the rest of the world have to deal with them. They also voted Trump in.
But the bozo we have in charge here is entirely transactional. So if Europe were attacked, the US might send help, but might send all out troops back via Greenland, then decide that it’s only fair for “Europe” to hand it over in exchange.
No doubt he would. He would probably ask the British Royal Family to hand over Canada as well.. 😅
No, he’d probably settle for Princess Charlotte. (But those attackers better be quick about it; in a few years she will be too old….)
Iran has shown that the US military is toothless against a midweight power, so dont worry too much. And even now very few Americans would sign up to hurt Canadians. Canadian approval of Americans is super low, but Canada and Canadians still poll extremely high in the US. 80% approval of Canada, right now, although thats down from 91% two years ago.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/703040/americans-views-canada-great-britain-drop-new-lows.aspx
I believe that if Europe is going to be attacked it will be Russia supported by the US or the US and Russia working together. The billionaires and the GoP hate Europe, our regulations and not prioritizing corporations over people’s rights. They want to own us or destabilize us so they can take us down. The US has been our enemy for 50 years, look at what they did to the middle east, that’s our fate if we don’t because self sufficient.
Good to see hypocritical European politicians finally opening their eyes
They surveyed politicians? I thought they asked citizens.
I doubt 1 in 10 US Government Officials would see them self as ally to Europe
It isn’t that the US has changed. It is the same as it has always been. It didn’t come to Europe’s “aid” until it had to defend itself against the Axis. It has been a American propogated myth that the US aids any other country. The US creates situations to take advantage of other countries and make it seem a benevolent action. The only change is that Trump is too stupid to get the messaging right and says the quiet parts out loud while scamming the American people for his own gain thereby removing America’s political mask and showing America’s real face to the world.