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The Real California Lesson: The Democratic Party Has No Actual Leaders
return2ozmahttps://newrepublic.com/article/211469/california-lesson-democratic-party-leaders
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They have people who keep claiming they should be in charge, but the Dem voters hate them because they are Corporate Establishment Democrats, not much different from Republicans. Despite 12 years of Democrat rule in this century, they haven’t made even the slightest attempt to give us anything resembling decent health care, or anything else for that matter. It doesn’t matter who’s in charge, the rich keep getting tax breaks, and the workers have to pay for everything, despite minimum wage not being increased since 2009.
MAGAs are traitors and pedophiles, but Dems are just losers, who are obsessed with being polite to them.
Dozzi92Revolution, the only solution. And Serj said it back in 1998, so it’s not a new problem. We just need a strong leader, and those don’t exist. Or aren’t allowed to exist.
Sure they do, it’s called money. Like all US politicians (and many in other countries as well) they vote as they’re paid to vote.
Priority one in any attempt to fix the US needs to be overturning citizens united. There’s an admittedly long list of other things that need to be done as well, but getting corporate money out of the equation is a significant force multiplier.
The only long term way to permenantly prevent corporate money from corrupting a political system is to prevent that kind of individual wealth from existing in the first place and to transfer ownership of corporations to a larger group of people, such as the employees, which will then spread out the wealth of those corporations such that no individual will have the kind of money needed to buy politicians and judges/justices.
What will happen if corruption is simply regulated without preventing mass wealth accumilation is the regulations will just slowly be eroded over time again as greed will ultimately prevail since it is ultimately allowed to prevail. We’ve seen this happen throughout history, where powerful people will do anything possible to gain more power. Therefore, we need to eliminate that kind of power from existing in the first place, which in our current society is wealth.
We could also just kill the rich. It may not be the ideal solution but it is definitely a potential solution. I think we negotiate from a weaker position when we act like that isn’t an option. Taxation, wealth redistribution, and caps on political donations should be seen as the preferable option to public beheadings, which is how the masses used to settle these kinds of grievances when pushed far enough. I say we frame it that way instead of “please don’t do mean stuff anymore Mr. CEO”, which is what they hear when we talk about more civilized solutions.
YoureHotCupCakeWdym its not an ideal solution? I think its the best way to quickly fix most of our issues.
I think it’s fair to say that the ideal solution doesn’t involve death at all. It is a simple solution though.
We are already past your ideal solution as death is already involved, the rich have been killing working class folks for a long ass time and I don’t believe we should forget that.
If we kill the rich, then new ones will rise out of their ashes. That is a temporary solution that wouldn’t actually fix the real rot in the system.
There is no permanent fix. Those with wealth and power inevitably seek more of it. All of history is an endless cycle of that kind of behavior.
The permenant fix is to have a society where no human has power over another. That idea is the basis for Anarchist idiology, which, contrary to the literal definition of the word, doesn’t always mean “no government/governance”. Just because modern history (outside of Native Americans and tribal societies) didn’t have an example to follow doesn’t mean we can’t try new things.
In a negotiation, you have to start from an extreme position in order to afford to make concessions without giving up too much.
To be fair, that is the left. A myriad of ideas thrown in a sack, and, like a bag of wet cats, there’s going to be little agreement.
Everyone has a different definition of what Liberal is. Like cats, frenemies at best, just for elections.
Ideally, aside from the money, no more lawyers. Lawyers live in a place where it’s not about right and wrong, legal or illegal, but how you can pick things apart and compromise, on everything, while making a pretty argument.
Will Rogers said it about a century ago.
“The census taker asked if I was a member of any organized political party? No, sir, I am a Democrat.”
Yes they do, it is called the electorate
samus12345Anyone that thinks the DNC should be involved in a Governor’s race shouldn’t be listened to about anything political.
They’re either woefully uninformed, or want the neoliberal top down structure that fucked us for generations.
LibertyLizardYeah I feel like people are just upvoting the headline here. If they read what it actually meant they might not like it so much.
DevolutionThe DNC hasn’t had a real leader since Obama. Explains why Trump is so obsessed with him.
They have the same bosses as the republicans, so they can’t criticize what republicans are doing. So there’s no surface area for a potential (liberal) democrat to latch onto.
The good news is that progressives will gladly fill that void.
Nope.
‘Progressives’ were getting on Mamdani for not disbanding the NYPD on Day 1.
Non sequitur.
Zoom in: In recent weeks, Ocasio-Cortez has tried to repair her relationship with Democratic Socialists of America (DSA).
Many members of the group opposed her support for giving Israel defensive weapons, including the Iron Dome missile system, during the war in Gaza — which she has called a “genocide.” In July 2024, national DSA leaders withdrew their endorsement of her for the elections that year, arguing that she’d conflated “anti-Zionism with antisemitism and condemned boycotting Zionist institutions,” which the group considered a “deep betrayal.” In a virtual DSA forum last month with New York City members, AOC — who’s also considering a bid for U.S. Senate in 2028 — changed her position on Israel by committing to vote against any U.S. funding to that nation, including for defensive weapons, City and State New York first reported. During the forum, she said her record on Israel had been distorted, which “does not benefit us as a movement.”
The critisism was valid. Israel should not get defensive weapons. When she changed her position on the issue, the dsa reconciliated with her. You will get nothing for acting like a cultist to any politician.
I always tell people to look at Frederick Douglas and Bayard Rustin.
Douglas backed Lincoln over a full on abolition candidate because Douglas knew Lincoln had the better chance.
Rustin was a gay man who never once pushed MLK to talk about gay rights.
But we must have perfection right now!
cut and pasted.
And?
Thanks for helping me prove my point.
It’s probably the last time you’ll help in this election cycle.
Progressives made him win
He should fire the commissioner
This, the progressive branch simply isn’t realistic.
The goal should be medicare for all and trans rights
I always tell people to look at Frederick Douglas and Bayard Rustin.
Douglas backed Lincoln over a full on abolition candidate because Douglas knew Lincoln had the better chance.
Rustin was a gay man who never once pushed MLK to talk about gay rights.
But we must have perfection right now!
Progressives have had forty years to fill that void and didn’t. Reform is not happening ever.
This would be the ideal leader for Democrats, articulate, a veteran, a family man, and attractive. John F. Kennedy is a good example. Prince Harry is a good example but he’s not a US citizen. Of course, this is ideal. The candidate might only have some of the qualities. Democrats should try recruiting Jonny Kim to run for office. Andy Beshear might be a possible leader.
Why a ‘veteran’?
It indicates service to one’s country. A war veteran would even be better. It would indicate courage.
The usa never did a war of defense since world war 2. Being a “veteran” in the usa highly could mean you participated in killing civilians
The Korean War would qualify as a war of defense. The war in Afghanistan was to keep the Taliban from taking over. That would qualify as a war of defense.
Why would we want a murderer as a leader?
I assume you’re talking about Prince Harry. He fought in Afghanistan as a co-pilot and gunner aboard an Apache helicopter. Killing an enemy soldier in combat is not considered murder.
I’m talking about veterans in general. They’re murderers, just allowed to get away with it cause they did it for the government instead of for personal reasons. Unless we’re gonna be fine with people committing murder then I better not see more libs talk about how murdering conservatives and the rich as “too radical”.
You’re talking about war veterans. Killing an enemy combatant is not murder. From https://www.military.com/feature/2025/12/13/who-counts-combatant-law-governing-lawful-military-targets.html
The cornerstone of the law governing combatant status is the principle of distinction. Customary international humanitarian law requires parties to an armed conflict to distinguish at all times between civilians and combatants and to direct operations only against combatants and other lawful military objectives.
They’re humans with families who, just like many over here, got forced into this by people who will never fight alongside them.
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Well, to be more precise, the leader of the Democratic Party is money. It’s unavoidably clear at this point.
This is by design. They can’t find a candidate who worships at the alter of money and is popular at the same time.