'Negative Time' Really Does Exist, New Experiments Suggest
https://www.sciencealert.com/negative-time-really-does-exist-new-experiments-suggest
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I read the article, i think I understand what they did (sort of)… But can someone eli5 what they did but especially what the hypothesis is that happens to explain negative time
Yeah yeah. I understand too but like someone should explain it to everyone else so they understand..
Photon comes out before it goes in.
I don’t really understand it either, but keep in mind this is happening at nearly lightspeed, so it’s not like the detector is lighting up right before they press the button to emit the photon.
Which makes me wonder, what happens if you combine this with “slow light” effects?
But only after a decision was made by a person to create the photon? Because otherwise that would be pretty spooky.
Yeah, it’s only once the photons in front of it could already have gotten there, so it’s like photons from the tail end of the pulse are catching up to the front as it emerges, even though they haven’t even entered the cloud yet.
Yeah that’s pretty weird but nobody could ever notice unless they knew what to look for. Now, if you had light beams coming out of there like 3 seconds before pressing the buttons, that would be scary weird.
So this doesn’t sound like we would be able to send people through. But information could potentially be sent back in time.
And that is a huge can of worms. We’d potentially get an actual answer on how time paradoxes get resolved.
Load up the machine with the latest lottery numbers, send the info as far back as the machine can do, and see what happens.
I’m guessing the current amount of negative timeisn’t enough. But I’m sure with enough experiments & understanding it could be pushed out a bit. Worst case it’d have to be an automated process with a computer doing the gambling.
Wtf are you on about. Read the article.
I did read the article. It says the photon comes out before it goes in, and photons can and are often used to transmit information.
So extend the principle further and you have time traveling transmissions to your past self.
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https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/gjfq-k9dv
Abstract
When a photon traverses a cloud of atoms without scattering, how much time does it spend as an atomic excitation? To address this question, we used the cross-Kerr effect to weakly probe the degree of atomic excitation caused by a transmitted resonant “signal” photon by measuring the phase shift induced on a (separate, off-resonant) “probe” beam, postselected on cases when the signal photon is transmitted. The time integral of this observed phase shift, properly normalized and averaged over many runs in which the photon is detected after transmission, is the excitation time of interest, in a weak-valued sense. We measured mean atomic excitation times ranging from (−0.82±0.31)𝜏0 for the most narrow band pulse to (0.54±0.28)𝜏0 for the most broadband signal pulse, where 𝜏0 is the non-post-selected excitation time, given by the scattering probability multiplied by the atomic lifetime 𝜏sp . Across a range of pulse durations and optical depths, our results are consistent with the recent theoretical prediction that the weak value of the atomic excitation time caused by a transmitted photon equals the group delay experienced by the light. Our experimental results show that negative times are not limited to describing the shift in the peak of a reshaped wave packet (as resulting from group delay), but they also provide the appropriate description of the weak-valued time the photon spends as an atomic excitation.
Atomic excitation refers to the process where an electron in an atom absorbs energy and moves to a higher energy level or orbit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_state
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The real question is if data or matter of any kind can traverse time.
I’ve been doing it one day at a time for as long as I can remember.