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New AI attack can reconstruct typed text from keyboard sounds
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This doesn’t need AI, it has been done for a long time
yes but…money please?
Yeah, but investora dont care unleas it has the acronym attanched.
I don’t know how the existing solutions work, but the article mentions it being possible without training on the specific keyboard first and with 99% accuracy. And that would be frightening, especially combined with that sentence:
How would I write shit about the idiots presenting in the meeting without them knowing?
Luckily software like Teams has noise cancellation, so keyboard sounds generally get filtered out.
Yes, but unluckyly, I have to use teams 😭
Not so fast…
Good spot. I missed that
But this is AI now not any other sort of machine analysis so it’s more headliney.
And now it’s easier and more accessible.
Yeah, I don’t really get these “this has always been possible” comments whenever it is about AI. Yes you could do this before, yes you could manipulate or even completely and convincingly make up photos before AI.
The point is that now is that it actually took some time, skill and effort to do that before, but now this has basically been made easily available to everyone, taking no effort or time. So that now any malicious moron out there who wants to do something destructive and evil are actually capable of doing it on the spur of the moment.
Nono no no no! AI is dumb and ineffective 🙄
This place is just progressive Reddit 2.0. It’s a time waster. Expecting and nuance or useful conversation around anything that doesn’t fit the communities world view will result in the same shit as Reddit.
Confirms that you can stick “AI” on everything currently. Doesn’t make it any better, but it sells.
Frfr i saw a billboard with ‘the countrys first ai-enabled pickleball court’. No i didnt follow up.
this isn’t new. It’s been a thing for a few years now
Good luck when I use dvoark.
it would just be a simple 1-step cypher though.
I guess that highly depends on how the AI or algorithm is working and how it learned. If it uses rhythm and distance in time space between strokes along a word prediction enging matching rythm with words, Dvorak will throw it completely off, since the rhythm is changed completely. My guess is you’ll need to train it seperatly on dvoark for it to have any chance of working.
What’s the learning curve like to switch keyboard layouts. I had enough problems switching from English (US) QWERTY to Spanish (ES?) QWERTY.
My typing was really slow on qwerty to begin with and I found it super awkward when trying to learn it. I really did try but gave up multiple times.
One day I just decided enough was enough and wanted to start from scratch. I added stickers to all my keys for dworark and used a training program (cannot remember what, but it was old school and worked great going step by step) and during my summer vacation one year I just sat in my hammock relaxing and just kept training with the program. After two weeks I was fast enough to write to friends in chats without it taking ages (still slow af.) after about a month I was faster than qwerty and have never looked back since. Dvoark is for me much more comfortable and intuitive for my fingers. Linux has exelent support for dvoark out of the box. Windows not so much for other than english.
Dont bother changing your smart phone keyboard too. It has 0% transferable skills or benefits and just so confusing.
How so? When I switched from QWERTY to Colemak, I felt like having the ability to switch my phone keyboard as well really helped ease the transition. Having different layouts in different places just seems like it would be confusing.
10 finger touch typing without looking at the keyboard which is what I did, is very different from using two fat thumbs on a phone where you are forced to look (at least for me) in order to have any chance of hitting the right keys. On a PC I never look at the keys because they are qwerty anyway. I just use a software setting in my OS to change it to Dvorak so I must be able to type without looking. On a keyboard my fingers just know what to push intuitively so I only need to think of a letter or word and my fingers just types it from muscle memory. This is what I mean when I say 0% transferable skills because the same muscle memory does not work on a phone anyway.
It may not involve 1:1 muscle movements, but it still helps. Having those rough key positions in mind helps both ways. Even using a Svalboard, which is even further from a traditional keyboard, I felt that using a Colemak keyboard on my phone still helped me learn Colemak on my Svalboard.
Fair enough. If or works for you. Colemark is also more similar to qwerty so maybe the experience is different. Tbh. I actually like qwerty for phone use because the most used lettered are spread out making words more destinct. But writing on a phone is always annoying to me.
Is your current keyboard a dvorak? I mean did it come that way from the factory or did you have to modify it?
Basically I learned to completely touch type without looking at the keyboard so the stickers were just there for training and as they wore out over the following months I basically didn’t need them ever again. Numbers and symbols stay in place except a few where the Danish æøå are placed but I just memorized those…
I just use a standard keyboard and have a shortcut to change between normal qwerty and dvoark. Qwerty is just for whenever someone needs to borrow my PC for a while. I can still write qwerty in a pinch but it’s as slow/fast as its always been and I have to look at the keyboard while typing.
I still need to look at the keyboard while typing some things. Text is fine, symbols and accents not so much. Especially because I switched layouts recently so i’m still getting used to it.
I’d say if you are bothered to change and already working on it my best tip is to commit and learn touch typing correctly with fingeres on the home row and train the muscle memory. If you don’t, then I’d say there’s no real reason to learn Dvorak. The benefits only really shine when touch typing. BTW for symbols I also Still have to look, but they never moved so even with qwerty layout visible I can just look ans find what I need. If you are using US Dvorak layout I’d highly recommend investigating if you can find and install a layout for your native language leaving the symbols alone makes things much easier
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That sounds like it was a standard QWERTY or something and they just used stickers to make it Dvorak.
Pretty sure I read about that years ago
Not new. In fact, USSR did a very similar attack many moons ago.
Hackers spying on my gaming PC’s keystrokes: “This guy says ‘wads,’ like, a lot.”