AI code increasingly leads to production failures
https://www.heise.de/en/news/AI-code-increasingly-leads-to-production-failures-11309868.html
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Rapid AI-generated code is just following the Elon mantra. Test in Prod!
It helps if you’re worth almost a trillion dollars though. You can afford to fuck up a thousand times with no consequences. I don’t know why more people don’t just get rich! It’s common sense! /s
I fucked it up at step one by not bring born to rich parents. I really should have started the grindset mentality sooner by being born to rich parents.
Edit: I’m doing fine, but if I had planned ahead better, I could be doing “zero consequences” fine.
No way to have known this would happen.
This is what happens when increased velocity is demanded. It takes at least as long to verify that the code works well as it would have for me to write and verify. I can pump out a ton of code with an LLM, but if you want quality it’ll take me just as long as 2 years ago, probably longer because of my decreased practice lately
It was established decades ago that
It’s harder to read code than to write it.
- Joel Spolsky
and
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
- Brian Kernighan
Having lots of code appear out of thin air isn’t really of any help in making functional systems.
Relying on “AI” is just like shooting yourself in the foot while on angeldust.
It doesn’t hurt now, but you lost your employe… I mean foot, and you still need to clean it up.
Shhhh don’t tell them, European bank are introducing AI in their process want to see capitalism fail ? Let some dedicating AI manage that. Then when it broke they have nobody to fix.
Europe is cool af tho
Yeah man. Rob the world, sit on the spoils until your oligarchs get restless and then release them on a “new market” (see, new victims). Based af /s
Oligarchs? Thats the angle you want to play? Europe has the most Democratic institutions on earth. They’re a beacon in a world brimming with autocratic nightmares.
Yeah, and most of the fucked up shit in the world is majority the responsibility of European settler colonialism. I’m from the states and most of the fucked up shit in this country is because y’all sent all your fucking wackjobs over here in the 16th and 17th centuries. Africa, the entire continent, is still fucked by all your colonies.
Like, don’t get me wrong, you’re sitting pretty. But the cost of all that pretty sitting was bore by the rest of the world.
Idk who tf actually needs to hear this but:
Columbus died in 1506 my dude
Everywhere on earth throughout all of history humans have been awful to each other.
The higher a country places on the democracy index the better off all of its people arem
We’re deep into a “move fast and break things cycle” which absolutely means a lot of testing is happening in prod because ev
I get it… If the competition has features you don’t have you’ll lose business now. Telling your customers to submit a ticket so the team can quickly fix it or ignore you is kinda the normal now.
What are you gonna do, vibe code your own solution?
No shit Sherlock. “developers” who vibe code were never developers to begin with.
Where’s that chart that shows that like 40% of all the llm data comes from reddit.
yeah they are product managers who can’t understand why their shit requirements are rejected by the dev team and now have access to some tools that will inflate their Denning Kruger syndrom by several orders of magnitude.
And them, boom, production.
It’s almost like you shouldn’t put unvetted code into production or something… Nah, that’s crazy!
Wowza, nobody had foreseen this happening! Well, apart from everyone in the tech sector, and all who were laid off in almost every sector, and everyone else… ahh forget it!
I have such 0 faith in companies that utilize AI code that I falsified all my info and permenently deleted my microsoft account quite a while ago and actively will not give out any real personal information to new companies.
Eventually, it will be a liability, and it won’t be me paying for it.
and it won’t be me paying for it.
Damn. What’s it like living on another planet? Cause that’s the only way that statement makes any sense.
You can’t personal responsibility away the failures of the system, my man
AI as a whole, and even Microsoft, might be costing us all but the specific liability of massive data breaches will miss me, thats the point.
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AI is the worst thing that ever happened to software engineering. I’m actually reviewing my options for getting out of it.
I’m hoping to exit the industry (eg., retire) as soon as is practical. It’s just not fun any more and this was the shit-icing on the cake for me.
Now, LLMs being used to check for vulnerabilities… that I’m not really against, machine-learning is good at pattern recognition and it seems to be legitimately useful at that from what I’ve heard.
But as ‘intelligence’ or a trustworthy search mechanism for retrieving and re-synthesizing (note I did not use the words ‘authoring’ or ‘creating’) anything more than simple standalone functions? Nope, nope nope. Too many hallucinations and I didn’t fall in love with programming and computer science only to end up being a reverse centaur, slaving away at prompts to actively steer a stochastic slot-machine into writing the proper code for a task.
I envy those that can retire soon. I’m halfway through my career, not enough money to retire yet.
I still need 3-4 years probably, minimum :(. I feel really badly for younger people having to deal with this shit. I’m also in a sub-field which doesn’t seem yet to have been hit so hard with all this BS. Sooo glad I didn’t become a JS/web developer, it sounds like vibe-coding and swarms of agents have taken over.
I’m 50 and in the process of retiring. It’s such a fitting exit. I’ll ride the slop wagon into the sunset.
I retired at 55 and I highly recommend it. Actually I’m not sure that I’m retired or just quit working. I worked for myself and decided I didn’t want to deal with people anymore so I’ve just stayed home for the last 11 years. Ether way it’s been great!
That seems similar to my path. Covid put me on the remote worker world, so we packed up and hit the road. Moved to a remote small town near vast nature. Bought a nice house on the river.
I’m also self employed and doing normal near retirement things. Currently on a 3-6 month contract for an ex employer in the financial space doing AI security stuff.
Then I’ll take the winter off and snowboard every day.
In this day and age, you can’t take that as anything but a win! Best of luck to your disembarking from the reality’s of life!
I think it’s one of the worst things that happened to humanity.
Even if you somehow want to convince yourself that the social and technological damage it causes are not so bad, the environmental impact is just the last nail on the coffin of humanity.
We’ll all die for shitty chatbots.
Ftfy…
Actually, both are valid
Try to resist a little bit more. The second AI winter is months away from now.
oh yea, not only that , conventions centers are mostly peddling AI TECH startups right now to stave off the bubble burst. i wonder how many tech employees going to these know AI is total BS, or to make thier bosses happy under the threat of getting a future layoff.
Same here. I’m looking at all my other hobbies and trying to see which one would be the best… Unfortunately I doubt I could get anywhere near the same salary unless I find a way to start my own successful business out of one of them. That sounds just as stressful though lol
I was trying to think of the same thing and came up blank.
(I’m a spoiled man in my 50s with an office)
No it doesn’t!
Lalalalalalalaaaaa can’t hear you!
I can finally fire everybody who ever said no to me!
I was basically told the other day, that if I (as a Network Engineer) don’t start using LLMs more regularly, that the vibe coders on my team will replace me with agents.
Let that sink in.
Imagine, an agent, configuring a BGP session, and validating it. MPLS. DWDM.
Yep. Me too. I’m fucking terrified.
Ohh, I would be glad. We would finally see how fragile the internet really is and hopefully it will spawn a better internet
The bubble can’t pop soon enough and it’s gonna drag the entire US economy under with it
Don’t worry the Chinese economy has been groomed to take over. They already make all of our shit anyway, And we’ve trained all their scientist and engineers and our western education so they have all the knowledge that we have already.
We’ve been warned about Skynet for decades. But in reality, it won’t be this organized, intelligent threat and will instead be this discordant shitstorm that eats all our resources and creates instability everywhere and goads everyone into a false (dependent) sense of security so that there’s no chance of properly rebuilding after our infrastructure fails
skynet achieved self-awareness, and AI. LLM arnt even close. let alone these ceos want Cylons too.
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