France records around 1,000 additional deaths as extreme heat breaks European records

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GlObAl WaRMiNG iS FaKe CuZ ItS ColD iN WinTeR… HuR HuR HuR

fucking morons

The people not denying it also don’t do anything about it. Most politicians and their constituency aren’t conspiracy theorists and most governments aren’t hard right but they still “can’t” tax or ban problematic business practices and individual behaviors. “Because of the economy.”

The rhetoric might be good, distinct and important, but the actions are almost the same as what you’d expect from deniers.

Capitalism has become the single driving imperative of this planet and it is going to kill us all. If money is power then capitalism is a form of government.

We are letting people die because it makes sense within the rules of a fucking game that keeps dividing and destroying our civilization.


I don’t know how you can say that. In the US the Biden administration put a lot of clean energy regulations in place to discourage coal energy and promote renewable energy and EVs. Then a global warming denialist took office and reversed everything.

I work in an auto manufacturing plant with eight or nine figures of EV manufacturing equipment sitting around, cancelled, gathering dust due to the political change.

You’d need 5 Earths for the global population to live like Americans and they are squarly behind everyone else on historic and per capita emissions. Swapping to EVs is a drop in the bucket. That’s what I mean with quasi denier behavior. It’s only done when it’s economically lucrative already.

Trump is a fascist and uses carbon emissions something like a badge of honor. They are not the same, but Biden wasn’t good enough by a long shot.




Exactly what those wizards predicted in the 1970s.


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A point missing here is electing politicians who actively hinder development of renewables, which has an impact by magnitudes larger than all these individual decisions.

It’s interesting to see how many ideological people there are on Lemmy, especially how they react when someone points out that their own behavior isn’t necessarily any different. It doesn’t leave me very optimistic about society’s ability to improve.




People can limit to make a tiny difference. People can accept that climate change is real and demand change from those who can make an impactful change (i.e. governments and huge corporations). The people OP is calling morons are those who are denying climate change, refuse to help, or engage in some kind of “gotcha” moment on social media with some bullshit take like, “Oh So yOu dOn’T pRoDucE aNy GhG ThEn I GuEsS? HmM, InTeReStIng!!!”

So please, stfu because not only do you produce carbon dioxide, you’re also filling the internet with more stupid than it can handle.


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(1) Why the hack you are putting your nose in this conflict? (2) Why are you defending somebody, who is calling other people „fucking morons“? (3) You make an active effort? What do you think how many people around you in different ages trying to make an effort at their best in their current situation? A poor person, living in the streets, causes less gas emission than you, so let‘s go and live on the streets. Or don’t you want to leave your comfort zone to really battle climate warming?

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The point isn’t to have no impact on the environment because that’s impossible, the only way to do that is to die. The point is to limit emissions at the highest impact areas which are all achieved at the policy level but just in case you feel like a needless ad hominem.

I bike to work, eat vegan for about 9/10 of my meals, drive a used electric when I have to, lend it out when I don’t and live in a city that gets the majority of it’s energy from renewables. I volunteer with habitat for humanity, I donate to local food banks and rewilding efforts. Have at it.

eat vegan for about 9/10

How do you want to achieve sainthood, when you’re not even giving it 100%?!
Are you even trying?

A hypocrite loser like you shouldn’t even be allowed to have an opinion let alone voice it!

/s



“Yet you partake in it! Curious!”

Oh it’s a troll account. What a blast from the past, those were all the rage back in 2009.




Holy… Those are Dubai temperatures, and Dubai is even colder than Europe right now.

Yeah I’m a bit surprised it is Europe that is getting the worst of this. I would expect countries along the equator.

The issue with Climate Change is that it exacerbates the extremes, so hot seasons get hotter, cold seasons get colder, rainy seasons get wetter, etc. The Equatorial areas are already at an extreme, it’s hard for them to get hotter.

I had not heard that before. If that’s true, then maybe it’s actually somewhat comforting.





What is the mechanism that causes the heat deaths? Dehydration? We don’t have this kind of extreme heat where I live so I’ve never really looked into it

Adding to the others comments:

Given the body’s vital requirement to maintain a core temperature of approximately 37 °C (99 °F), a sustained wet-bulb temperature exceeding 35 °C (95 °F)—equivalent to a heat index of 71 °C (160 °F)— is likely to be fatal even to fit and healthy people, semi-nude in the shade and next to a fan; at this temperature human bodies switch from shedding heat to the environment, to gaining heat from it.

- wikipedia


One way is because the heart has to work extra hard to keep the body cool enough. Elderly or people with heart problems are at risk as their heart just can’t take the extra load and goes into cardiac arrest. The heat also comes with dehydration what puts even more load in the heart.

edit: and the problem is compounded again with certain medications, and elderly or people with existing medical issues are the ones using the most medication.


Young children and old people can have problems regulating their body temperature, if someone’s internal body temperature exceeds normal living range, they die.

If you want scary, look up Wet Bulb events.

Every woman you know over a certain age has fucked thermoregulation.

Guess what estrogen does

Mmm, I had a close call a couple of weeks ago with overheating it was genuinely scary … as in, I couldn’t feel my hands, and I was prepared to pass out.

I’m “of a certain age” but on bucketloads of HRT :-/




Elderly and vulnerable can’t take the heat because sweating takes energy, and its so hot and humid sweating doesn’t work.


In addition to the old people thing: a lot of people who have no experience with swimming trying to swim in unsafe bodies of water they shouldn’t be in. People stop thinking rationally when they’re too hot.



bUt, iT’s SuMmEr! 🙄


Fortunately, I stayed home.

The French houses are designed in a way that the rooms inside are hotter than the outside. And they have no AC. They’re just screwed this summer.

I didn’t really feel it…

Do you want a cookie? What did you expect me to respond with? Fuck off.





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