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Microsoft converts Office 2019 for Mac perpetual licenses to read-only versions
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They already stole Microsoft Access 2019 from me on Windows as they switched me from a Professional license to Home and Small Business or whatever.
It’s not as much of a Microsoft problem, as it is the problem of the whole app notarization concept, which is extremely hostile to both consumers and developers and provides little to none security benefits. If Apple didn’t have that crap in place, not Microsoft and not anyone else would be able to pull off such stunt.
john_tI have a perpetually licenced cheese sandwich in the kitchen. I bought it, it’s mine.
You’re being robbed.
Pirate.
Or, an actually better option, switch to LibreOffice.
SeductiveTortoiseI like the second option better. We should try to make the user base bigger and dry out the Microsoft swamp.
I thought it meant it just wasn’t getting updates anymore, but this is wild
The July 13, 2026 conversion instead drops the apps into a Microsoft-defined "reduced functionality mode," in which files can be opened and viewed but not edited or saved
Not much of a “word processor” if all it can do is view files. Clearly trying to force users towards their shitty subscription service.
Em AdespotonGoogle Docs, LibreOffice and Euro-Office can all open and edit Office documents, and two of those can also do online collaboration. Unless you want integrated Copilot, there’s no reason to move to O365.
There is. Compatibility. Ms has had a monopoly on office for decades, and some things still don’t format correctly or functions don’t work as they do in ms office.
For most people, laziness prevails when it just works in ms office.
But also for most people, the amount of ms office they’re leveraging is 100% functional in libreoffice and the like.
Change is also hard for most people.
OOXML is a public standard—one that MS has problems matching between versions, but Google and OpenOffice based products have only had issues with embedded objects from other MS products.
Classic MS having problems with open standards. I think good OK internet explorer had the same problems through its tenure.
Even O365 regularly botches line, paragraph, and table formatting compared to the desktop versions. If you really need your formatting to be page-perfect, you should probably be using Scribus, Microsoft Designer, or Adobe InDesign anyways.
Why would anybody want integrated copilot? That’s disgusting!
FWIW I just spent a couple of months testing a bunch of Office suites as a replacement for MS Office, and I settled on SoftMaker. The “Home” subscription (version without AI and reference features) is CAD $40/year (there’s also a free version with a few features removed) and it can do everything that MS Office can do, some things (like commenting in Word docs) it does better.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I’m expecting Euro-Office will be on par within a year, and allow me to self-host (and it’s all OSS).
Yeah, I’m going to watch Euro-Office, too, and in a year when it’s time to renew my SoftMaker subscription I’ll decide which to go with.
mintiefreshAbsolutely wild.
Is this even legal? If someone bought this previously …. They just essentially …. Cancel it?
I can almost understand 2019, which was End of Support in 2023. Blame Apple’s certificate requirement, I guess?
But 2021 is still literally under support until later this year, which is mind blowing.
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and I must be a Microsoft customer.
They cannot do that, it’s a lawsuit magnet.
They can, they have, and they will continue. A $20 million US lawsuit fine is just the cost of doing business to them. Barely a rounding error.
That’s just sad:
Not sure they understand the meaning of the word “perpetual”. 💀
They met with telecom companies and heard about “unlimited”
Their charm offensive is full steam ahead,I see.
I think it’s great what they do for the Linux and Foss scene
They think they are too big to fail.
You know who else was too big to fail? The Roman Empire. Let’s check in to see how they’re doing these days…
It’s like Trump and Operation Epstein Fury turbo charging the move to renewables.
The only reasonable option here is to switch to LibreOffice or some other FOSS product.
EuroOffice
Or Euro-office once that comes out
Getting sick of all these Windows
updatesscheduled remote degradationsIt’s not Windows but I know what you mean. And totally agree.
When I sold customers office a couple years ago. I would give them two options, you can go with MS365( or what ever bullshit they call it now) and pay the yearly subscription to always have the newest product. Or you could buy perpetuals and hope they don’t start sunsetting perpetuals faster than they did back then. They have always made perpetuals unusable after 6+ years through one mechanism or another.
Office 2003 still works just fine friend.
I actually have never had to deal with office 2003 in a professional capacity, so I could not tell you. From what I remember the word processor always worked, it was Outlook that did not work eventually. After end of life they don’t add new auth methods to the old software. Running Office 2013 and Outlook 2021 side by side was a disaster.
Is that office 2003 works on my system? Or Office 2003 at 3 different customers with an endless variety of hardware and OS combinations, mostly works?
I’m using Office for Mac 2024 and honestly, the main drawback is the monthly updates. Good lord am I sick of updating everything all the time. I’m pretty sure they didn’t have to do this with Atari Pacman in the 80s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRnno9VIZx0
thats some bull