Microsoft revokes Office 2019 perpetual licenses, then edits their website to gaslight customers.

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reference to this, i’m guessing:
https://appleinsider.com/articles/26/05/28/microsoft-is-killing-office-2019-for-mac-and-iphone-and-you-cant-do-much-about-it

apparently it’s due to an expiring digital certificate. this older version is ‘end of life’ and because it isn’t receiving updates anymore, microsoft’s lust for profits says it won’t get a renewed certificate either.


Two words: Libre Office

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Also, if anyone out there’s wanting to learn about other ways to get away from paying for subs, I did a series of videos on this earlier this year.

Any chance you have a text version?

EDIT: Posted the text list of the alternatives lower in the thread.

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Yes. The description in each video has chapters in the description telling you application or software names, for the TLDW crowd.

But I can write up a quick list if you life. Happy to do it.

A text version where I don’t need to load any video seems a lot more useful. Not that your face isn’t adorable.

Okay, here’s the abridged version of my ‘Stop Paying For’ series. I hope something here is new to you and helps you give the billionaires a kick in the dick. Happy to write it out because I hate billionaires that much, but if this is useful to anyone out there, I’d appreciate a like on one of my videos. Being a small creator who vocally supports FOSS/alternative apps is tough.

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Euro Alternative Apps (To Divest from US Apps)

  • Proton
  • Qwant
  • Mastodon
  • Threema

Spotify Alternatives

  • Metrolist
  • Outertune

Cheaper Video Games

  • Weekly Free Games on Epic
  • Key Resellers (G2A/Loaded, but use at your own risk)
  • Humble Bundle

Netflix Alternatives

  • Tubi
  • Hoopla Digital
  • Kanopy

FOSS Software

  • Linux
  • LibreOffice (MS Office Replacement)
  • qBittorent (Torrent Client)
  • VLC Media Player
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I wish I could send users a dollar as easily as hitting the updoot button. Keep being awesome.


Have a like on all your videos…


if you’re not afraid to give winks towards piracy - in Netflix alternatives i’d also include Stremio. the base app is fully legal, and kinda useless, but with just one plugin (torrentio) it replaces all streaming services







I’ve been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

Yes that is correct. You have been out of the loop for a very long time.

I got sucked into 10+ years of Microsoft-centric corpo gigs. Womp.


Except libreoffice is pretty crap. Especially their spreadsheet program.

They’re looking to optimize the project for collaborative working, browsers and smartphones. I reckon the UI might see some modernization, as well.

https://www.heise.de/news/Kurswechsel-LibreOffice-fuer-Browser-und-Smartphone-kommt-11309343.html

Alternatively, Euro-Office could be of interest. It’s going to be much more modern and is to ship with most of the comfort Microsoft Office has. Euro-Office is a reviewed and improved OnlyOffice (a Russian project) fork. It was forked to avoid potential Russian influence on it. The first stable version will be available from June 9th 2026, next week. Not finished yet, though.

https://www.computerbase.de/news/apps/euro-office-europaeische-alternative-zu-office365-startet-am-09-juni.97589/

Sources in German, apologies.


I tried using LibreOffice Calc when I was working on my OSCP and some of the basic functionality was so broken it was almost laughable. I think my text was pasting in as an image sometimes? I forget the exact details but it was unusable for my purposes and I decided to try again in a few years.




From Wikipedia:

“Oracle OpenOffice” is a discontinued office productivity suite. Originally acquired by Oracle through their purchase of Sun Microsystems in 2009, the project was officially discontinued in 2011 when Oracle laid off the development team and donated the code to the Apache Software Foundation.

The Fork to LibreOffice: In 2010, the majority of the original volunteer developers left Oracle to form The Document Foundation, creating a fork named LibreOffice. LibreOffice has since become the standard, actively maintained open-source office suite.


open office kinda went out when oracle took them over. yeah it was handed to apache but by that time libre was the standard.


apache has all but let openoffice go. there’s, i think, like one guy that works on it occasionally.


Yeah. No offense (because not everyone can pay attention to everything, for various reasons), but it’s been the most popular open-source office suite for at least the past decade.




I am altering the license; pray I do not alter it any further. - Microsoft


you know I was about to buy licenses for some software from microslop. seeing as they clearly disregard their responsibilities upholding the agreements they make, I have no reason to believe they’ll continue to do so for any of their licensed software.

makes it easy for me. I’ll just pirate it.

thanks microslop!

You do whatever you want with the resources and constrains you have.

But in my humble opinion, the best move would have been to migrate to LibreOffice and make a donation matching the MS Office license, or migrate to Collabora office (it’s based on LO), or another opensource alternative.

Again: that may not be possible for you personnally, and I’m not judging. This is only to remind everyone there are alternatives out there.

Word alternatives are easy, how about Excel?

I use LibreOffice calc and have little issues, all about your use case though. Worth a shot at least.




Pirating software and living life on the edge

How do you do that without getting a virus?


“But the DARE officer said drugs are scary and I saw that movie about how weed makes you a psycho killer.”

Qu’est-ce que c’est?

The movie is probably referring to Reefer Madness, whose propaganda is so absurd it’s kinda hilarious. It’s a movie that literally only works as propaganda if the viewer knows absolutely nothing about weed.

Sorry! I am familiar with it, I was just singing along to Pscycho Killer.




“I know something you don’t know, which makes sense because it’s not common knowledge, and I’m going to make you feel like shit about it.”

The actual answer is just don’t click the virus links







LibreOffice is better than Office 2019 anyway and up to date.

I’ve have LibreOffice for over a decade, had OpenOffice before that. Haven’t needed MS Office for anything near 20 years now.


but affected macs that are still running office 2019 have serria or high serria, and can’t run libreoffice (current requires os11)

I think you meant sierra


Yet another reason, I aint got a mac.


The cybersecurity part of my life would say that one shouldn’t run an unpatched and EOL operating system and install Linux but yeah I guess if people wants to run old insecure software and hold on to microsoft that sucks I guess.

i’ve got someone here clinging to winme of all things. it’s only just this year started to be a ‘problem’, i.e. not allow him to do something he wants to.

that’s not even the dumbest part.

he got a replacement years ago–that’s literally still new-in-box. that new pc has sat unopened and unused for its windows’ entire service life.

the old coot lives too far away for me to go help. i keep asking him to bring it all to me to see what’s what, but he hasn’t yet.



Can’t they just run an older version of LibreOffice?




Not much different than their revoking of Win 11 licenses because the hardware changed…

They’ll keep pulling this BS because people are ‘locked in’.

I bought RAM in 2026 because of how much I want to finally get rid of Windows. Can’t wait to get my build up and running.



You know whats really weird? Office 2019 just went on sale a few weeks ago.

https://www.techspot.com/news/100909-get-microsoft-office-29-one-time-purchase.html

It’s like Microsoft wanted to squeeze a few extra dollars out of customers. But id be pissed if I bought it and found out it was being locked down 3 weeks later…

Although to be clear only the Mac version is being discontinued. For now.

That was not a real sale.

It’s a fake article pretending that there’s a sale in order to make affiliate money selling grey market keys from msdn. Those keys activate, but they don’t come with a valid license to use, those are supposed for testing only on that specific msdn account.

It works like this: the fake tech blog gets 40%, the rest goes to the keys seller, Microsoft gets 0%.

Fuck Microsoft, but at that point is more ethical to just use massgrave and activate it for free

Mm ok good to know. I just thought the timing was interesting.


I got a key like this from Groupon of all places


Thanks for this, nuance in this day and age are always welcome :)



Honestly, as much as I want to shit on Microsoft, this is probably more a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. They’re a massive disorganized mess of a company.

pfft AI is improving everything, how can you say this?

I wonder if that divison’s copilot ran out of tokens. That’s probably the issue.




Just use Massgrave for Microsoft stuff.

someone with an affected version would have to try that, but i’m guessing if legit perpetual 2019 licenses are dead upon expiry of that certificate, mas won’t help either. moving to 2021 or newer won’t work either, as the affected users’ macos version won’t support newer office versions.



“By perpetual we meant you can perpetually have them, not that they’ll perpetually work.”


I’m glad I’ve entirely moved away from Microsoft products. Worst of the worst.

Amen! Nothing but Google here.

/s



We have No Killing Games, now wet me need No Killing Software…

Not really. People should be encouraged, after seeing how bad the software provider treats them, to switch to open source - or at least to software of less shitty companies. You can’t do that with games - each game is a unique1 piece of art and culture.


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Games have a cultural element to it.

Non-game software doesn’t. It’s much harder to convince politicians.

The argument for non-game software would be economical. But most big companies pay the subscriptions, since they want to have the latest version (if not for the features, at least for the security patches). So they’re not affected. The most affected by this is consumers and small companies. Which don’t have a lot of power.

The way to fix this is to support the competitors that don’t do this kind of shit. For office in particular, there’s even free alternatives.


Yea, that’s the end goal. It’s a smart way to run a political campaign using relatable concrete problems that people face from abusive licensing policies in the software industry.



Gotta get those CoPilot numbers up


I moved to Linux. I really liked Linux mint, but had some issues. Dove deep into learning about Linux to get at least a slight understanding.

Absolutely LOVE cachyos with KDE plasma desktop environment. It even has an app page on load up to download everything I needed, steam, DVD burner, librewolf, etc etc.

I just love KDE. It makes every os better. Not sure what os is even doing for me to be honest since I’m a visual user.

KDE chefs kiss, they solved one my biggest frustrations I’ve ever had. In the world of being connected and all this cloud shit the 100 step process I needed to do to move a picture or document from my phone to my pc like fuck. With KDE wow just wow.So convenient so easy. The joy and relief It brought.




I try to use LibreOffice but my company uses SentinelOne and flags LibreOffice as malware and quarantines my files. I have to place a ticket to get my files back.

You have my sympathies, That is one hot piece of garbage



Same video on Odysee which you can easily use in the browser or in GrayJay.


someone call Louis Rossman !

Can’t be bothered to go any further than the headline, eh?


He made a vid on it.

You’re commenting on a thread ostensibly discussing that video.




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