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US Supreme Court just blew up EU-US Data Transfers
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The joke of a “privacy framework” has now a excuse less.
Just one more reason for Europe to abandon American tech.
ripcordYes stop buying our shit holy fuck
Enjoying my EU hosted services, and looking forward to my next-gen cloud office software from the EU, and I’m already bypassing US retail brands for most of my electronics.
There was a time that saying “buy American” wasn’t a curse or a threat.
My eu hosted services pass through us servers. Every single one is like this. Probably because your countries are spying on Americans too, and you’re all in cahoots together.
The day that the regular people of Europe and America, realize our leaders are all mutually fucking us together and hopping over to an island to fuck kids while laughing at us will be a fucking great day.
Jesus fucking Christ STOP
That would help.with so many things if it was abrupt
It’s so fucking stupid they keep saying they will abandon our tech AND YET…
Less talky more doey guys. We are all waiting!
What’s transferred is transferred. The amount of available data is massive. Thats not even considering complacency going forward.
Any day?? Year? Decade????! Actions speak louder than words and actions prove Europe leaders want this.
One big lie has been debunked.
Whether or not that means there will be more truth, well, time will tell.
There will never be more truth while these crazy idiots are in charge. Take the reflecting pool as example, everyone saw it being painted and they were proudly yammering about it being painted. The paint failed because they’re morons and suddenly it was terrorists cutting a 300 foot liner with a box cutter.
shish_mishWatching The Man in the High castle hits very different now.
People over here are seeing what is going on in the USA but
they might still vote for Reform and then we are done.
The rich will make sure that they control everything including
every citizen.
Palantir, Musk, Bezos,Thiel and all the other monsters will plunder
what is left of the worlds resources and retreat to their many bunkers
or Mars. They think AI will fix the earth and according to them millions
will die in the process of them remaking the world into a Technocratic
feudal system.And for that they want all the data till they know more
about you than you do yourself.
At least that’s what they have in their project 2025 and beyond as a plan.
They want only the “right” people to survive.
It makes horrifying reading, they think of empathy and kindness as big
massive weakness,they want the sick,disabled ,lgbtq and others to
die as thy are seen as a burden on their system.
Sorry for the rant but I am old and these people scare me.
Do you have any further reading material? It feels like we haven’t gotten too far past the point of no return but I suppose once you pass that point, by definition you can’t return. Are we really that close to Snowcrash?
This is a good explanation of project 2025. It is a roadmap to the extreme right.
Women will lose their right to vote,getting contraceptives will be hard to come
by as they want women,white women to have as many babies as possible.
They want to institutionalize all homeless,disabled and mentally ill.Withing their
circles the talk of mercy killings of these people.
There is so much more craziness they want to enact and people need to organize
and fight back.
https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Project-2025-Full-Report.pdf
https://lofgren.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/lofgren.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/Stop%20Project%202025%20Task%20Force’s%20Project%202025%20Subject-by-Subject%20Breakdown_7.26.2024.docx-compressed.pdf
Doug Rushkoff’s Survival of the Richest paints a really fascinating picture of the tech billionaire mindset. Rushkoff has been writing about tech for like 50 years so he’s able to explain the evolution from creative tech anarchist to fascist sociopath. “They seem to think they can design a car fast enough to outrun its own exhaust.”
Look up Curtis Yarvin and Dark Enlightenment. It’s why fElon wore a dark MAGA hat.
yeah its kinda surreal how this march to destruction is when your at the just trying to make it to retirement age (which looks like won’t be around then anyway)
If it’s any comfort, none of them are getting to Mars.
To be fair, I would love it if they fucked off to Mars.
If they did, it sure would be a shame if their radio stopped working
Shits just getting started. This is just going to be one of many dominoes from this ruling to the ultimate demise of the USA, even if they do get rid of Trump.
This + Citizens United + President can’t be charged for official acts = game over.
The presidency is no longer trust worthy, and now every US agency is no longer trust worthy.
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: Approve it
FDA: The drug isn’t safe
Trump: You’re fired
FDA: The drug is the BEST DRUG WE’VE EVER SEEN!
Every single agency.
DFX4509BWelcome to the Reich. The Land of the Free is no more.
Jhexit never was… like most American things, it was always just marketing
Oh? Tell me about your country then.
There have always been issues. There was a lot of precursor to this. But there has never been anything this bad.
America was a beacon for the world, despite our violations and blemishes. Relative to the rest of history, we were leading the world ina better direction,.
Nixon was out after Watergate. You don’t have to bribe our doctors or our cops during traffic stops. While we’re having issues with LGBTQ, we were a leader in treating people with respect for a few decades. That’s our norm.
This is Idiocracy.
crimson_iriswe were a leader in treating people with respect for a few decades
When was that?
Treating people with respect, but also letting people die because they can’t afford medicine or health care. Intelligence services selling cocaine and drugging their own citizens with LSD. Privatized prisons. Invading countries for their oil. Overthrowing democratically elected governments and fucking up regions all over the world.
Yeah sure
not haveing universal healthcare while bad is nothing like the crazyness of trump. As for the rest. Pia Vesta. Operation Condor. Private prisons showed up during reagan and is part of the downward spiral that got us to current and same with invading oil rich countries. Proxy shenanigans are also very prevelant outside of the us. So what im saying is the things you list in some cases are just common in the world not just the us and in other case were fought against and is part of what lead to trump. This is different mainly because the constitution is just being flaughted outright rather than being chipped at and scotus is not defending the constitution and half of congress is derelict in their duty to impeach him for flagrantly breaking the laws of the nation.
Operation condor started in the 70s… Pre-operation condor in the 60s under JFK
All your heroes are monsters, and that says more about you than them
im sorry. where did I list my heroes in this conversation? Yeah us was involved with that along with many other countries. again not just a us thing. europe, russia, asia, south america have all had things like you try to pretend is just the us. now I did address the uniquely us things but much improvement post ww2 came out of the us response to the depression. Anyway the point is what happening under trump is different. is worse. and is not business as usual as folks like you want to make it out. I honestly just assume its right wing shillery to normalize what they do but maybe you legit think this way.
Obviously nothing comes close to what is happening in the US right now, and I do hope it’s not to late to turn things around.
Obviously nothing comes close to what is happening in the US right now
Slavery? Internment camps? Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia? Iraq? Torture? Genocide?
Americans are disgusting
The CIA planted crack in black neighborhoods, the fbi killed all the civil rights leaders, our government injected black men with syphillis to see what happens,the end of Jim Crow just morphed into mass incarceration for black Americans, we committed a genocide on Native Americans, we have pedophiles running our government, we’ve destabilized hundreds of governments to plunder assets ……I could go on and on we’ve always been a fascist nation. For a moment I thought we might be improving but nope all hope is lost
Sounds like the UK.
I imagine if you compile a list of the worst any country has done that it’d look a lot like this.
That doesn’t excuse anything, but all those things don’t add up to Nazi Germany or 2026 Israel.
We’re working on showing you what fascism really is.
I imagine
Yeah of course you do; because you start from a position of American exceptionalism and then just imagine backwards.
Oh yeah? What’s your beacon of a country? England? France? China? Russia?
The fact is we were generally dragging the world (in hand with Europe) towards better ideals, like equal rights for all, democracy, and eliminating low level corruption.
It wasn’t always the case, and was certainly in fits and starts. But in our absence I don’t see China or India having that generally positive influence on the world.
Yes, there’s room for improvement. But if we’re at a C while most other countries are content with an F, well…
USAID has done a lot of good around the world.
We are paying for the genocide in Israel. We are combining our military with the IDF. We are occupied by Israel. We are Israel
While we’re having issues with LGBTQ, we were a leader in treating people with respect for a few decades.
When??
Woah guys, we got someone who fell hard for the propaganda.
The US spread fascism around the world in the form of the most destructive industry man ever invented the military industrial complex. The US has only been without conflict for a very short time in all its history.
We have committed and assisted in multiple genocides and our destruction to the environment through our proliferation of polluting technology has poisoned every single human on the planet. By my estimates we have lost close to a billion people from pollution in the last 50 years.
While I will admit the current administration of outright thieves is shocking, this type of back room dealing had always been a part of our extremely corrupt nation.
Most of what you praise is literally propaganda and very little can be attributed to reality. Sure the US has had more decorum in the past, but that ain’t saying much.
America was a beacon for the world, despite our violations and blemishes. Relative to the rest of history, we were leading the world ina better direction,.
No you fucking weren’t, this chauvinistic bullshit is no better than MAGA fascism
somebody opened wide for the koolaid
DupaCyckiAmerica was a beacon for the world
Yeah. For a brief moment in the 19th century maybe.
While we’re having issues with LGBTQ, we were a leader in treating people with respect for a few decades. That’s our norm.
The USA has been the only rich country with unsolved racism for decades. Is that treating people with respect?
The idea that any G20 country has solved racism is absurd.
Like seriously… We don’t have as many issues with racism against black peeps in Germany (as the US has), but that’s because very few live here at all.
“Our” racism targets eastern Europeans and (in my region) Turkish ppl, but I guess that’s not racist because they’re close enough in skin tone? (/s obviously)
There have always been issues.
That is a crazy way to diminish the reality that this nation only exists because of a holocaust and only became an economic powerhouse because of slavery.
America has never been worth a god damn thing. Some Americans are fine people, but the system, the nation? Designed to be diseased.
Snap out of your American exceptionalism fever-dream and step into the real world, please.
With the CLOUD, FISA and PATRIOCT acts, any privacy was already inexistant on USA soil, so at least if the commission can pull its head out of its ass, it coald be better.
x00zImportant read:
How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days - "He used the constitution to shatter the constitution."
trump wants palantir to handle all the data, so they cant profile “dissidents against right wing governments”
Wow, a news site that actually links primary sources like the SCOTUS decision. 10/10 Absolute amaze!
NOYB (non of your business) is great! Not so much a primary news site, but an Austrian NGO that focuses on data privacy in the EU. They have taken some of the biggest cases related to EU:US data transfers against the EU.
Ah, that makes more sense. I was suspicious of a news site being so good. The search for good news source continues…
Pretty sure it’ll make no difference. The agreements were already constantly being broken, and the EU only occassionally bothered doing anything about it. With the current European Comission being made up entirely of American assets, I suspect we’ll see no action on this whatsoever.
The title is wrong. SCOTUS didn’t make anything happen … the question is what EU regulators will do, and my guess is they won’t do a damn thing. But you never know!
MinnesotaGoddamNot sure whether this is an oversight or an intentional breach of the treaty. Hard to tell when one side acts in bad faith.
I’m not sure. Technically, yes, but there have been a number of EU treaties like that before that got all chopped by the courts, and the EU just went and found other lame excuses to try the same shit again.
So, theoretically, the EU has to rip that treaty to shreds, and have no real chance to get another attempt because all legal pathways have now been burned.
This may delay the launch of windows 12 by a few days, possibly a week. But everyone should remain calm, nothing will fundamentally change.
KissakiSCC, BCR, PCLOB - would be nice if they explained the acronyms.
Please stop calling seflhosting “digital sovereignty”. It’s just a marketing buzzword, but basically there is nothing there except “I will host it myself”.
I thought the idea of digital sovereignty means you host services in the same legal domain or country, not that you literally “self host” things. For example, nobody is calling that the EU organization should self-host anything, only that they would use European cloud services.
Or does “host it myself” actually mean that someone else would host it for you? I don’t believe that’s the common way to understand it.
US-based software does have hosting physically in EU, which makes it in the same legal domain, but US has the CLOUD Act, where US can force their companies, even if abroad, to pull data to US. So, being simply in the same legal domain or country does not make it sovereign. You actually need your own hardware and the full software stack where there is no foregin ownership to actually be sovereign.
And if you just scale up from individual persons to nations/blocks, whats the difference between “I will not use Google Drive, I will selfhost Nextcloud” and “EU will not use Google Drive, it will selfhost Nextcloud”.
Me in this case is just not a person, but a country/political entity. EU is selfhosting instead of using US-provided hosting.
TattorackI prefer calling it “digital anarchy”, especially if you’re going so far as setting up your own Meshtastic node.
CyberEggThis follows the “unitary executive theory” that the US President must have power over all US executive bodies
So the US President is a king.
Unless it’s a Democratic President trying to forgive student loans.
No one should pretend the Supreme Court has any legitimacy.
“Unitary executive power” is just another word for “unified power”, with more capitalist propaganda behind it.
I have said repeatedly that that agreement was worthless and probably illegal anyway, because it’s based on US agencies respecting personal data, and USA has demonstrated multiple times that their agencies have very little respect for personal data.
Therefore in principle it is illegal for any public institution in EU to store any personal data on any American owned server or cloud service.
This agreement between EU and USA was merely a play to the gallery, to avoid a major political trade crisis between EU and USA.
USA can still legally break all the rules by just saying the word terrorism. But they have many other ways they circumvent the regulation, for instance simply buying the information they need from scumbag companies that specialize in selling personal information, without needing a permission from a judge.
Actually surprised it has taken this long to realise the usa agencies cannot be relied on any more for indet.
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