Stop feeding Joe Rogan's trolls: Progressives must reclaim the politics of pleasure - Salon.com

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Sometimes I wonder what would’ve happened if Ray Romano had never been fired from NewsRadio and replaced by Joe Rogan early into production. He might’ve remained some vaguely amusing meathead opening for more talented comics at ‘The Comedy Store’ to this day… And the world might’ve been spared from 9 seasons of Everybody Loves Raymond.

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Do you think the stools would have been able to handle it?

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this fucking goon

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You know I almost fucking appreciate it. Because it’s important to me that this farce of an administration not be taken over serious, other than as something to be replaced and forgotten

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I always wonder what would’ve happened if Lydia Lunch would’ve put that cigarette out in his eye like she said she would. I’ve realized it’s a toss up. He would’ve either developed an intense femdomination fetish and left the public sphere entirely to be a full-time sex slave for a sadistic domme (i.e. Wachoqski sisters) or turned even more violently misogynistic than he already is. I’m not sure if either option is an improvement over what we have now, but I do think Jane Rogan could’ve been a great advocate for masculine tgirlism.

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To think we could have gotten the Ray Romano we actually deserved…

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A lot of progressive and “progressive” commentators of notoriety are to blame for Rogan’s rise to the mainstream as a fascist icon.

Throughout 2015-2019, mainstream progressives online were constantly throwing everyone, who rightly called out MAGA for being fascists, under the bus. They did this to appeal to the average MAGA moron under the bullshit belief that these fascist assholes could be convinced to our side through decorum and treating them with respect that was NEVER reciprocated.

Joe Rogan’s show was the pinnacle of where progressives would do this. The same show where fascists would be on the next episode and demonize the same progressives that were just glazing them.

This allowed Joe to pretend to be anti-establishment and “neutral” to your average dipshit, and it made grooming them into fascism all the easier for Joe to do.

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2022?!?! Get the fuck out.

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There are lots of versions of the story I can tell about how I transitioned from the Republicanism of my childhood to become a progressive in my late teens: critical thinking skills, education, relocation from a small town to liberal Austin, Texas. But likely the truest story is the simplest one: The left was a lot more fun.

The progressive world had better music, more interesting books, and entertaining parties. Feminism interwove political discourse with pop culture, fashion, and sex. Liberalism was an ideology that promoted curiosity, beauty, humor, and freedom — so totally unlike the small-minded and boring conservatives I grew up around. When I think about attracting people to the left now and getting them motivated, however, I have to admit that it no longer seems so obvious that liberals are the fun ones.

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As someone who tries to be progressive, my enjoyment of things is hampered by knowing more about how they affect things.

Like, I love cars and driving fast but those are very bad things and I should feel bad for liking them because I’m killing the planet.

So everything I like I feel guilty for liking. But if I didn’t feel guilty about liking things I’d feel guilty for not caring enough to feel guilty.

So I can get why an ideology where you don’t have to feel guilty is so attractive.

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