Driving a vehicle with extremely loud exhaust through residential areas after midnight should be recognized as an extremely harmful and antisocial behavior and be punished by imprisonment at least for a few weeks.
I was trying not to go “too far” and be called ragebait, but I agree.
ALL noisy cars need to fuck off, whether they came from the factory like that, or you installed some “thing”.
Also fuck the guy around the corner with a dilapidated house but a new Harley in the driveway, revving it whenever someone walks by. I can see your attic through your missing shingles, my guy.
You can literally just wait the fuck up, and you will be wealthier than you would be without children. THEN you can have children. Anything else is catastrophic child abuse.
Honestly, when I encounter people like that, I just block them and forget that they ever existed.
I usually attempt to either confirm that they are trolling or evil or misinformed, but once I have done, you know, 20% of the amount of effort to get to the bottom of things and I still don’t really feel convinced one way or the other, I just block them.
Oh well, we won’t have any further conversations. Oh darn, oh no.
Yep I’ve had a lot of those. Also people who just want to argue for the sake of arguing. You can tell they don’t really have an interest in the position they’re holding at all. It’s kind of different from ragebaiting? Frustration baiting I guess? They just never listen to reason or deliberately misinterpret what you say to energy vampire the will the argue out of you.
The thinking, mentality and emotions about all this are normal … I know, because I’m getting to the age and experience in life that I feel this way too sometimes …
… the part that is not normal is that many of these people choose not to be polite, considerate, accommodating, compassionate, empathetic or kind and keep these thoughts and ideas to themselves.
Think about it … if I applied every idea or thought that you thought was a good idea, it would satisfy a good percentage of everyone, but it would not be suitable for everyone. The same thing applies to everyone else’s ideas or thoughts. None of our individual ideas will ever perfectly mesh with everyone in society … we all have to learn to accept and live with the idea that we all have to live within certain limits and learn to accommodate others around us and hope that they do the same for us.
We all have to compromise a little bit for one another and that way, we all get to live in a little bit of peace …. because due to human nature and our ever expanding ability to screw with one another in ever more creative ways, it’s the best we can hope for.
Perhaps the first step towards any kind of sanity in all this is in first understanding that this is how we all are.
Yse! And also this hyperbolic religion would practice….
Anti-innovation of wahhabism,
Sexism of wahhabism and mormonism,
Racism of mormonism,
Cult-iness of mormonism and scientology,
Business approach of scientology.
If I want someone dead I’m not particularly broken up about how it happens or any horrific shit that may happen to the lead up so long as it doesn’t include rape. Now consider the fact that I look at the average mega church as the sacrifice equivalent of an all you can eat buffet, oh how the glory of the old gods would be witnessed if I could have my way.
Wait I’m pretty open about how bloodthirsty I am, this ain’t even really a bit. I truly do want to massacre millions of people for no other reason than I think theyre stupid and empowering monsters worse than I since I just want to kill not take over government, society, and culture. Also I guess there’s the factor that I would prefer to go over everyone individually, no point sacrificing the infirm, the young, or the redeemable.
Rape is simply unnecessary, you can extract so much more mental and physical trauma with a vice. Also the type of person who would rape is also on my kill list so why would I let them do as they wish? Also I much prefer letting people live with the actions they’ve done, let them see their ideals, morality, and social structures burned down and rendered into history right in front of them.
I wish to see them lament like the Babylonians did as their world was burned down by raiders, let them write it in stone.
It’s not a matter of morality it’s a matter of my own honor and pride. For me it’s not even necessarily about retribution but moreso about simple removal, killing when done justly is just a chore like any other. Rape serves no purpose other than pleasure for one party if even that, and visually is so being as to ineffective from a visceral perspective.
Authoritarianism is the more efficient governing model.
It is far more beneficial and productive to society to dump more money and research into countering the negative health outcomes of eating terribly unhealthy food than it is to try and undo entire socioeconomic models and human habits that are geared to consuming the unhealthy things.
Some people are so stupid they should be chemically castrated. Depending on them to raise a future functioning human being will fail and ultimately will be a drain on the over all system.
Some people have done such horrible things beyond a shadow of a doubt that even death is too much of a mercy. They should be kept alive and tortured mentally and physically every day until they die of natural disease processes.
Authoritarianism is the more efficient governing model.
The hard part is picking the right authority. That’s what the other models factor in. But yeah authoritarianism can be more efficient if we pick the perfect authority
Some people have done such horrible things beyond a shadow of a doubt that even death is too much of a mercy. They should be kept alive and tortured mentally and physically every day until they die of natural disease processes.
but…why? What good does this serve? It just wastes time and resources on the torture
My genuinely unpopular opinion that I will not be changing: If you are fat, it is your fault. I fully understand (at least to the extant modern research has gone on the matter) the genetic differences in hunger receptors, fat accumulation, serotonin deficiencies from vagus nerve disorders, etc.
All of the above are easily treatable, half of them with OTC medication. If you eat more than the calories necessary to run your body, you will gain weight. There are no phantom calories, you are snacking the whole fucking day.
My genuinely unpopular opinion that I won’t be changing: if you’re fat that’s 100% okay!!! Absolutely no moral condemnation is warranted and anybody being a dick about it is just a mean-spirited cockhead grasping at the shallowest possible ‘justifications’ to feel superior to someone!!!!
Where the fuck do Lemmy users get off on thinking they’re as progressive as it gets but the moment women, Muslims or fat people are mentioned they turn into the most concavebrained chuds imaginable who can’t stand it when people who are different to them exist happily as equal members of society??? Pathetic.
Well. Lemmings are known to have strong opinions. And like most people, they have their blind spots for who they judge. I know I judge “conservative christians” too hard due to bad actors.
Oh there may be, but sometimes the light shines how incorrect their opinion is. Like all media sites, progressiveness has nothing to do with how much a dick/ignorant prick they are. In some cases, factual proof isnt sufficient because it just how “they are wired” (ignorance; hatred; etc).
beyond genetic differences, I understand there’s also a growing body of evidence that a person’s gut microbiome plays a pretty big role in how the body processes food. I heard of a case where someone got a fecal matter transplant, their diet and level of activity didn’t change, and yet they started gaining significant more weight.
I mean it kinda is your fault as in you can change it with enough willpower, but just like with smoking tobacco, constantly being exposed to advertisement and temptation is definitely not your fault and governments need to do something about it.
For one, most people that become obese are overfed as children when they don’t know any better, so blaming them for the obesity that was thrust upon them by heartless and inconsiderate parents, is just like a step too far.
For two, the nutritional content of food has decreased dramatically in the last 40 years, so many people could be induced to overeat due to lack of essential nutrients.
and for three, there is an entire industry of people with PhDs who are paid good money to craft food that never satiates.
People that become obese in the western world are getting hit with a threefer. Adding blame to them on top of that? It’s just too much.
Oh no, poor ignorant supposedly functional adults, totally unable to change anything about their behaviors or learn something new! Awww poor wittle babiesactual adults.
Stop infantilizing people. Shit like this is half the reason there are immature adults that do not know how to take accountability for anything.
No one is actually going to post a controversial opinion in this thread, because lemmy is just as bad as reddit at cultivating groupthink, if not worse.
Also, while unfettered capitalism certainly deserves some criticism, anyone here criticising it is mostly just creating an untouchable boogeyman to blame for their problems so they don’t have to admit that they could actually be happy and successful if they tried. Anyone who was seriously trying to create a post-capitalist world would be organizing their neighbors in real life, and would rightly see lemmy as a waste of valueable time.
Is it really reddit and lemmy to blame, or is that just how groups of people… do? What else are we communicating for? Ideas meat other ideas, they interfere destructively and constructively, and new consensus is built. Repeat.
To an extent, yes. But also there is the issue of the structure of the voting system. Contrast this to other options, like oldschool forums or stackoverflow.
On stack, the format encourages solving problems - in particular, the problem the question-asker asked. Even if there is some group-think about the “right” way to solve a problem, the question asker ultimately gets to mark the answer that solved their problem, regardless of group approval.
On a traditional forum, even if there was a voting system, there was no heirarchical comment structure and comments weren’t hidden based on popularity. So you had to scroll past every comment, including the ones you disagreed with, and you would typically have to read that comment to understand the whole discussion that was happening.
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Driving a vehicle with extremely loud exhaust through residential areas after midnight should be recognized as an extremely harmful and antisocial behavior and be punished by imprisonment at least for a few weeks.
Objectively true. Except 9pm cause I go to bed at a reasonable time to get my proper 8 hours sleep.
How about any time because some people work odd hours or nights.
I was trying not to go “too far” and be called ragebait, but I agree.
ALL noisy cars need to fuck off, whether they came from the factory like that, or you installed some “thing”.
Also fuck the guy around the corner with a dilapidated house but a new Harley in the driveway, revving it whenever someone walks by. I can see your attic through your missing shingles, my guy.
How about anytime because some people have ears and want to keep their hearing.
nah, screw them
/j
Why limit it to exhaust? Blaring music is also very bad.
I was gonna say that guy looked familiar.
He’s famous!
This explains most of your posts
Thank you
Im pretty sure I fought this guy in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. He is a beast
Lunar landing deniers are worse for the gene pool than people with Down’s syndrome.
Yeah I could see that
Can’t land on the moon if the earth is flat! Checkmate! /s
How about anyone from this video.
https://youtu.be/UGhGBBQKzAA?si=la3tdIX1eraTWRIg
Blaming learned behaviors and beliefs on genetics is stupid behavior and only reinforces eugenicist assumptions about humanity.
Oh, ok. Thanks.
Have you ever once TRIED to step away from being an internet contrarian douche?
…is that not in the spirit of the original post we’re commenting on?
AND I BAITED YOU! HAH! GOT YOU, YOU SNAKE IN THE GRASS!
snafued
coaxed,, even
POOR PEOPLE ARE UNETHICAL IF THEY HAVE CHILDREN!!
Please debate my true position in the comments.
IT IS TOTALLY ETHICAL TO BE POOR AND HAVE CHILDREN. THEM KIDS HAD IT COMING OR I WOULDN’T HAVE TAKEN THEM.
It is our collective responsibility to keep children out of poverty, regardless of the circumstances of their birth. There, your position is now true.
You can literally just wait the fuck up, and you will be wealthier than you would be without children. THEN you can have children. Anything else is catastrophic child abuse.
Honestly, when I encounter people like that, I just block them and forget that they ever existed.
I usually attempt to either confirm that they are trolling or evil or misinformed, but once I have done, you know, 20% of the amount of effort to get to the bottom of things and I still don’t really feel convinced one way or the other, I just block them.
Oh well, we won’t have any further conversations. Oh darn, oh no.
Yep I’ve had a lot of those. Also people who just want to argue for the sake of arguing. You can tell they don’t really have an interest in the position they’re holding at all. It’s kind of different from ragebaiting? Frustration baiting I guess? They just never listen to reason or deliberately misinterpret what you say to energy vampire the will the argue out of you.
I only do it in this community because this is the place for it
Past a certain age, you can’t tell if someone is rage baiting or just fed up with life
You mean it’s normal?
The thinking, mentality and emotions about all this are normal … I know, because I’m getting to the age and experience in life that I feel this way too sometimes …
… the part that is not normal is that many of these people choose not to be polite, considerate, accommodating, compassionate, empathetic or kind and keep these thoughts and ideas to themselves.
Think about it … if I applied every idea or thought that you thought was a good idea, it would satisfy a good percentage of everyone, but it would not be suitable for everyone. The same thing applies to everyone else’s ideas or thoughts. None of our individual ideas will ever perfectly mesh with everyone in society … we all have to learn to accept and live with the idea that we all have to live within certain limits and learn to accommodate others around us and hope that they do the same for us.
We all have to compromise a little bit for one another and that way, we all get to live in a little bit of peace …. because due to human nature and our ever expanding ability to screw with one another in ever more creative ways, it’s the best we can hope for.
Perhaps the first step towards any kind of sanity in all this is in first understanding that this is how we all are.
Yes
Haha lol Jk bro I was kidding and you totally fell for it bro I wasn’t serious at all (unless…?)
What if people on lemmy shitpost are suffering from long bouts of constipation and not realizing they are taking things way to seriously?
Some are
Offer them some water soluble fiber.
I mean it can be both
No
then OP is simply da big stupid 🤷♂️
True
“Rage Bait” is typically more like this
How did you turn my phone screen into a mirror?
You see, I AM a fucking idiot
I guess we are just going to have to fight about it then
I like my odds
Best of luck, you are gonna need it.
Rage bait is the generous interpretation. The “no one could be this stupid and awful” interpretation.
So what then? I guess you’re stupid and awful then.
Yes I’m stupid and awful
Religions are a cancer to society
But one more than the others
That one unnamed mix of mormonism, scientology, and wahhabism practiced by exactly 6.5 people in France.
so what, they believe in the Abrahamic deity + thetans?
Yse! And also this hyperbolic religion would practice….
Anti-innovation of wahhabism,
Sexism of wahhabism and mormonism,
Racism of mormonism,
Cult-iness of mormonism and scientology,
Business approach of scientology.
Hey now!
Mormonism also has a business characteristics.
If I want someone dead I’m not particularly broken up about how it happens or any horrific shit that may happen to the lead up so long as it doesn’t include rape. Now consider the fact that I look at the average mega church as the sacrifice equivalent of an all you can eat buffet, oh how the glory of the old gods would be witnessed if I could have my way.
Wait I’m pretty open about how bloodthirsty I am, this ain’t even really a bit. I truly do want to massacre millions of people for no other reason than I think theyre stupid and empowering monsters worse than I since I just want to kill not take over government, society, and culture. Also I guess there’s the factor that I would prefer to go over everyone individually, no point sacrificing the infirm, the young, or the redeemable.
I would hire people to do the rape part too, I don’t see why show any mercy to certain people?
Everyone needs to know EXACTLY what being a piece of shit gets you.
Though that is ONLY reserved for the Epstein class.
Everyone else, fuck their rights, a mind-wipe will do for anyone not seriously threatening society.
Rape is simply unnecessary, you can extract so much more mental and physical trauma with a vice. Also the type of person who would rape is also on my kill list so why would I let them do as they wish? Also I much prefer letting people live with the actions they’ve done, let them see their ideals, morality, and social structures burned down and rendered into history right in front of them.
I wish to see them lament like the Babylonians did as their world was burned down by raiders, let them write it in stone.
You seem to have the delusion that it is a special evil that even the worst people should be exempt from.
Let me remind you, they raped and ate children.
Went out of their way to make our lives miserable in every single way possible, are actively exterminating humanity.
They broke everything sacred, and did every evil they could.
I’m certainly letting the rape squad take care of them.
It’s not a matter of morality it’s a matter of my own honor and pride. For me it’s not even necessarily about retribution but moreso about simple removal, killing when done justly is just a chore like any other. Rape serves no purpose other than pleasure for one party if even that, and visually is so being as to ineffective from a visceral perspective.
Authoritarianism is the more efficient governing model.
It is far more beneficial and productive to society to dump more money and research into countering the negative health outcomes of eating terribly unhealthy food than it is to try and undo entire socioeconomic models and human habits that are geared to consuming the unhealthy things.
Some people are so stupid they should be chemically castrated. Depending on them to raise a future functioning human being will fail and ultimately will be a drain on the over all system.
Some people have done such horrible things beyond a shadow of a doubt that even death is too much of a mercy. They should be kept alive and tortured mentally and physically every day until they die of natural disease processes.
Socks feel refreshing when they are wet.
The hard part is picking the right authority. That’s what the other models factor in. But yeah authoritarianism can be more efficient if we pick the perfect authority
but…why? What good does this serve? It just wastes time and resources on the torture
My genuinely unpopular opinion that I will not be changing: If you are fat, it is your fault. I fully understand (at least to the extant modern research has gone on the matter) the genetic differences in hunger receptors, fat accumulation, serotonin deficiencies from vagus nerve disorders, etc.
All of the above are easily treatable, half of them with OTC medication. If you eat more than the calories necessary to run your body, you will gain weight. There are no phantom calories, you are snacking the whole fucking day.
I like the way you’ve gussied up “objectively wrong as proven by science” into “my unpopular opinion.”
When your opinion contradicts known fact, it’s no longer an opinion. It’s a fantasy.
You can’t even change your “opinion” when provided with excellent reasons to, yet you judge people for not overcoming their biological imperatives.
A few more facts before I go: I’m not overweight, and you are a douche.
My genuinely unpopular opinion that I won’t be changing: if you’re fat that’s 100% okay!!! Absolutely no moral condemnation is warranted and anybody being a dick about it is just a mean-spirited cockhead grasping at the shallowest possible ‘justifications’ to feel superior to someone!!!!
Where the fuck do Lemmy users get off on thinking they’re as progressive as it gets but the moment women, Muslims or fat people are mentioned they turn into the most concavebrained chuds imaginable who can’t stand it when people who are different to them exist happily as equal members of society??? Pathetic.
Well. Lemmings are known to have strong opinions. And like most people, they have their blind spots for who they judge. I know I judge “conservative christians” too hard due to bad actors.
Oh there may be, but sometimes the light shines how incorrect their opinion is. Like all media sites, progressiveness has nothing to do with how much a dick/ignorant prick they are. In some cases, factual proof isnt sufficient because it just how “they are wired” (ignorance; hatred; etc).
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beyond genetic differences, I understand there’s also a growing body of evidence that a person’s gut microbiome plays a pretty big role in how the body processes food. I heard of a case where someone got a fecal matter transplant, their diet and level of activity didn’t change, and yet they started gaining significant more weight.
I mean it kinda is your fault as in you can change it with enough willpower, but just like with smoking tobacco, constantly being exposed to advertisement and temptation is definitely not your fault and governments need to do something about it.
I’ve heard from recovered meth addicts they’re glad they weren’t alcoholics since you don’t see near constant ads for meth everywhere.
Can’t really say I agree with you.
For one, most people that become obese are overfed as children when they don’t know any better, so blaming them for the obesity that was thrust upon them by heartless and inconsiderate parents, is just like a step too far.
For two, the nutritional content of food has decreased dramatically in the last 40 years, so many people could be induced to overeat due to lack of essential nutrients.
and for three, there is an entire industry of people with PhDs who are paid good money to craft food that never satiates.
People that become obese in the western world are getting hit with a threefer. Adding blame to them on top of that? It’s just too much.
Oh no, poor ignorant supposedly functional adults, totally unable to change anything about their behaviors or learn something new! Awww poor wittle
babiesactual adults.Stop infantilizing people. Shit like this is half the reason there are immature adults that do not know how to take accountability for anything.
Not every obese person is the person you are picturing in your head.
I’m not saying don’t be hateful, I’m saying understand who you’re hating first. Be a little selective.
Yes, some people do have glandular problems or underlying health issues.
No, that is not the vast majority of obese people.
Again, stop infantilizing grown-ass adults.
nah lots of people are fat because of undiagnosed mental illness. depression -> fat, it’s known
You did the thing correctly, good job.
Then you are a bad person
We didn’t need evidence that you fuck pizzas, everyone already knew.
No one is actually going to post a controversial opinion in this thread, because lemmy is just as bad as reddit at cultivating groupthink, if not worse.
Also, while unfettered capitalism certainly deserves some criticism, anyone here criticising it is mostly just creating an untouchable boogeyman to blame for their problems so they don’t have to admit that they could actually be happy and successful if they tried. Anyone who was seriously trying to create a post-capitalist world would be organizing their neighbors in real life, and would rightly see lemmy as a waste of valueable time.
Well duh! When your objectively correct opinions are just different versions of you loving [REDACTED]
Is it really reddit and lemmy to blame, or is that just how groups of people… do? What else are we communicating for? Ideas meat other ideas, they interfere destructively and constructively, and new consensus is built. Repeat.
To an extent, yes. But also there is the issue of the structure of the voting system. Contrast this to other options, like oldschool forums or stackoverflow.
On stack, the format encourages solving problems - in particular, the problem the question-asker asked. Even if there is some group-think about the “right” way to solve a problem, the question asker ultimately gets to mark the answer that solved their problem, regardless of group approval.
On a traditional forum, even if there was a voting system, there was no heirarchical comment structure and comments weren’t hidden based on popularity. So you had to scroll past every comment, including the ones you disagreed with, and you would typically have to read that comment to understand the whole discussion that was happening.