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US lawsuit accuses Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron of worsening the RAM crisis by fixing memory prices and supply
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How much was the fine for the last price fixing lawsuit?
Interesting. The story I’ve been hearing is it’s a supply problem caused a massive demand for the Nvidia AI chips and the ultra-fast RAM they require.
I just saw a report from SK Hynix (that triggered chip stock selloffs) that they were dialing back on production for the next generation NVidia chips. The market figured that was evidence of soft demand.
Turns out that was because those were delayed, so they decided to build more of the lower speed RAM, which I think is the stuff consumers are needing. Working from memory here, so details are likely off.
Anyway, the problem may be more about producing for the most profitable market rather than price fixing.
I look forward to the outcome. It will be nice to know the situation from an objective source.
Full disclosure, I own shares of FKLR which is an ETF of the South Korean market index that is dominated by these two companies.
It’s doing poorly just now due to that report I mentioned and a bunch of other things.
Looks like the previous fine was 185 million.
Working from memory here
Nowadays that’s a pretty expensive way to work
I also own shares on memory manufacturers but i am flexible to sell my shares if the companies turn out to be total sleaze bags. There are plenty of other companies in East Asia regions that are killing it in the EV and AI boom that are not sleazy.
You don’t actually need to engage in collusion to fix prices and silently agree not to compete. You just need to not be an idiot.
ShredderFeederWatch them say “well we just won’t sell to the US anymore”
That’s where most of the AI data centers are
Exactly, that’s why it’s the ultimate threat…
You think they’d destroy their own companies as a threat?
Yeah but to their own bottom lines
In the short term..but the US would fold pretty quickly…
Don’t think you grasp which side has the actual leverage here…
The US market is the one that has driven the truckloads of money that have resulted in the memory vendor stock increasing over 10-fold.
Even a pretty severe compromise or fine is totally worth it to keep the money hose going.
Infernal_pizzaFuck RAM manufacturers but are they actually price fixing though? It seems like AI companies just said “hey, we’ll give you a hundred million billion trillion gazillion schmillion dollars for all the RAM you will ever produce” and they said yes
No! Companies would never do something like that!
Could we send that same accusation at the chicken farmers because every flu season they act as if they had no idea the flu was going to kill their gains. Then the price of chicken goes up. Get some better protocols or plan for the loss every year.
Rekall IncorporatedOne could argue that with chickens it’s genuinely more difficult to manage such a seasonal issue.
It’s a whole different thing with memory where it’s clear there is de facto collusion to raise prices (and they’ve even been caught doing it before).
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Good, because they literally are.
Oh, the known ram cartel is being a cartel?
they wouldnt do that … checks notes a fourth time.
They aren’t beholden to the US legal system