It's about communities instead of attention marketplaces

That was quite the journey.

First time seeing a dance break in a Mastodon thread. This is nice.

Important words near the end:

The more people come to Mastodon (or the greater Fediverse, etc.) looking for something different, the better their initial experience will be.

Wow, that was a great thread. I realized, maybe, what was realized by the author as well — with other socials, it’s about “getting likes” or outside approval. “Great post!” That sort of thing.

But with the fediverse, it’s about interaction. Having conversations with real people. For me, having posts boosted or whatever doesn’t give me that dopamine hit that another platform might. Instead, it’s how engaged people may get with the post.

I think that’s why I’ve abandoned all other social media and stuck with the fediverse. It’s organic.

The only reason why Mastodon is free from crypto bros and other plagues is because there’s not enough people there to make that effort. Any sufficiently successful community will be attacked by marketers pretending to be genuine people. You can either stay under the radar or be ready to ruthlessly enforce rules against promo of any kind which in the end turns out to be unpopular because with a big community you get lots of people who opt for default things in life.

Been there, done that, which is why I’m here. I wonder how much worse it is with LLMs.

I was looking at this post thinking that it would be great to have a proper crosspost function for toot where threadiverse answers would be mixed with the twittoverse ones, and I through it would be great if PieFed did that. Then I realised who share this thread, so I take a bit of time to bore you with my thoughts lol.

Feel free to ignore this OP. The thread is interesting btw.

The World Wide Web *was* a decentralized system, once upon a time. Technically it still is today, but greatly diminished in that respect. It is looking like tools such as the Fediverse are perhaps the only method to offer hope to fight against that trend?

So I agree with the overall sentiment, but I feel like the reason I dislike “microblogging”, which is to say Mastodon, Threads, Twitter, etc is highlighted as a positive in the first post.

something that signals “I am more than just a content creation machine for a corporation!”

It could be a status symbol for all the right reasons.

I care about talking to people, not a person. The Lemmy/Piefed/Mbin/Reddit style of conversation (forum?) is just a better way to get people together to talk about things. You don’t have to be someone special with a “status symbol”, you don’t have to be “content creation machine” for anyone.

I say this because while conceptually I’m glad that the whole Fediverse and ActivityPub can talk to each other, we’re just not having the same conversation.

Fediverse would be more friendly to new users if the main features of all platforms worked on all platforms?
A network of 1/2 working federated platforms
Some dev teams just decide that they would prefer to do something via a different path or not at all.
Not aimed at any platform, its how it is.
If fediverse worked better I think there would be more communities.

I love Piefed