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Jeff Bezos's Prometheus raises $12B to build an 'artificial general engineer' for the physical world
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“Significant productivity in the economy is going to raise the standard of living,” he said. “People who today have two-earner households, they’ll become one-earner households. Maybe some people who are working overtime will stop working overtime.”
I fucking love it when the exact people who make it their life’s mission not to pay their employees living wages so that they can hoard wealth like an evil dragon come out and tell us that the new tech they are using to replace us will make us rich. Really fucking Jeff? How about we eat you and take it? That’s the only way I see it happening.
No, he said two-earner households, will become one-earner households, he didn’t mention* anyone will become rich, just that one person from the household will become unemployed.
(* at least he didn’t mention it in the cited fragment. I didn’t read the entire thing, my time is too precious, I must waste it on writing comments instead of reading sources.) ( Of course he will become richer, but that’s the obvious part of the idea and doesn’t need to be mentioned)
AnikiI didn’t read the entire thing, my time is too precious, I must waste it on writing comments instead of reading sources.
upvote for honesty :)
How exactly will two earner households become one earner households without one of the earners making double the money?
The theory here is that if everyone is twice as productive, everything costs half as much in relation to what people earn.
Of course that doesn’t work unless there’s heavy competition in the market for everything.
Yes that doesn’t happen when monopolies dominate the economy as they do in the USA. Then the monopolies just take higher margins.
I’ve heard many a time from many a booster that AI will lead to UBI. This reminds me of that. CEOs selling delusion in a desperate attempt to distract from the reality, always claiming better lives are just around the next corner.
I just need a few more
billiontrillion dollars, bro, I swear. Trickle down economics work, just a few more trillions. I swear, bro, AI will bring UBI, just several more trillion dollars, bro. I swear, bro.
The argument is always that “they’ll have to”. And really, it’s like “Bitch, they don’t care if you live or die. “
Yeah we will get a UBI but they won’t pay taxes to fund it and will take jobs from the taxpayers who do pay. Same story as trickle down economics and we all know how that ended.
actually i disagree with this. money flow should look something like this:
the community (town, city) donates money to the people (UBI), they spend it to buy goods and services from companies (which make a profit that way), which then have to pay taxes to the community.
it’s not companies’ job to provide for people. that’s politics’ job.
Sure, that’s how it should work. But how it actually works is that Amazon pays an effective tax rate of 1.4%. Tesla pays an effective tax rate of 0%. Yes they pay no tax. Meta pays 3.6%.
The billionaires themselves pay lower tax rates than their secretaries and janitors. Both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have had years where they paid no tax. Larry Page and Mark Zuckerberg are paying effective tax rates around 13%.
So, yes I’d like to live in this fantasy world too. But the government can’t raise enough taxes for a UBI by taking in only a fraction of the money that they themselves give out.
That 12 billion could have gone to health care, helping the homeless, improving schools, for research into diseases, into renewable energy sources or into making affordable houses.
But this is what we get.
ScrubblesSure but how does that help the business world? Having happier healthier people that stay working age longer so they can take more wages? No! No wage! O ly work!
switcherooThey could just make an artificial general CEO and get rid of his payments altogether, stock holders would get a huge rise
Right? Pretty interesting that perhaps one of the easiest jobs to replace is never mentioned by them.
Talking about replacing fucking engineers with unaccountable black boxes before even mentioning CEOs.
What a fucking joke.
teftThey better start putting fucking labels on AI engineered buildings and bridges because I sure as fuck am not getting inside or on one.
You can buy a subscription to an ai designed database. We will always keep our paying customers safe and happy.
if your poor, try not being poor. Good luck.
Wages for workers are the biggest line item for most companies. Owners hates it because that money is theirs, by golly. The concept of being part of an economy never enters their stream of consciousness, only the desire to optimize sucking money out of it.
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What they don’t realize is once they drive the unemployment rate up super high, they’re gonna have an angry mob busting down their door looking to eat them.
Not saying someone should but….. I would not be sad.
oh_All that money, and he does nothing of value for society. At least the OG evil rich guys of the 1900s did charitable things sometimes.
TryingToBeGoodYou can hire metric tons of human engineers for that.
It’d be quite fitting for Bezos to be chained to a rock and for an eagle to eat his liver every day, which grows back every night, forever.
goatinspace
These chuckle-fucks still don’t want liability for their designs but they want to replace pharmacologists and bridge builders?
They’ll put a little “ai sometimes makes mistakes.” banner near the chat window. That should do it.
Personally I wouldn’t trust a lawn chair engineered by AI…let alone anything consequential.
And the fact that nobody is starting with “design a lawn chair” is telling.
joelle_etherI’m waiting for the AI engineered car that looks like the one Homer Simpson designed.
heliotrope
Boy, I sure someone would chain him to a rock and send an eagle to eat his liver every day for all eternity.
Them billionaires truly have an interesting self image. Prometheus he calls it. I don’t know anyone further away from Prometheus than Bezos.
Giving fire to the people? Maybe to burn their houses down so they have to book sleep pods inside his warehouses where they slave away endlessly. He’d give the filthy mortals nothing for free. Nothing.
Of course. While the whole worlds population is being phased out this guy does pie in the sky mulling but, because he can’t mull, he needs to throw money at it in a desperate, quiet rage.
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I fucking love it when the exact people who make it their life’s mission not to pay their employees living wages so that they can hoard wealth like an evil dragon come out and tell us that the new tech they are using to replace us will make us rich. Really fucking Jeff? How about we eat you and take it? That’s the only way I see it happening.
From the guy who’s company recently blew up an entire launch pad and facility?
Oh fuck off