Claude is an Electron App because we’ve lost native

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API-wise, native apps lost to web apps a long time ago. Native APIs are terrible to use, and OS vendors use everything in their power to make you not want to develop native apps for their platform.

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I have no dog in this race as far as Claude is concerned, but this is pushing a false dichotomy. Not using, say, WinForms or something, because it’s too limiting or because you don’t want to make a unique UI for every platform, doesn’t have to mean strapping an entire web browser to your frontend, there are plenty of other options.

The reason frameworks like Electron are popular is that we’ve spent a long time hammering a square peg into a round hole and there are now a whole bunch of tools for designing on top of web technologies and a lot of designers with experience with those tools. And of course, the fact that code can be reused between the web app and the desktop app helps too. But it does have a performance cost. The fact that you can have poorly performing and bloated native UIs too doesn’t change that no matter how well-optimised your HTML+CSS+JS is, you can create something of the same complexity that is faster and leaner using native widgets. And when people opt for the desktop app instead of web app, they typically want something that performs better than the web app.

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I mean, Qt for example?




I feel like that meme works here:

You: Don’t use Claude because it’s Electron.

Me: Don’t use Claude because it is AI related.

We are not the same.


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Imagine being such a slop-brainwashed fanboi

Do you have any evidence for this? Looking through the post, and the author’s other blog post titles, there is very little mention of AI or Claude.

Instead of throwing labels at the author, it’s much more worthwhile to discuss their key argument about the challenges of developing native apps.

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I think you’re misconstruing the author’s argument, at no point does the author imply that Claude knows best, or that Electron apps are better. Their closing argument is certainly not an endorsement for Electron or AI slop.

Don’t get me wrong: writing this brings me no joy. I don’t think web is a solution either. I just remember good times when native did a better-than-average job, and we were all better for using it, and it saddens me that these times have passed.

I just don’t think that kidding ourselves that the only problem with software is Electron and it all will be butterflies and unicorns once we rewrite Slack in SwiftUI is not productive. The real problem is a lack of care. And the slop; you can build it with any stack.

Do you actually expect people to read past the headline? All the way to the end too, preposterous!

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Ah apologies then





They also bought the Bun JS company, didn’t they? Maybe they actually can improve the spp a bit by replacing Node with Bun.


Also, which native UIs do people like coding up? Most UI toolkits have JS bindings, don’t they? So only HTML/CSS is the bad fit?




I think the argument is full code sharing with web apps. Does desktop app not use crossplatform terminal APIs, instead of JS?



because we’ve lost native

Speak for yourself.


OpenCode is written in JS and uses Bun. Eats ram and crashes everyday.



Codex is written in Rust, as it should be. It even has readline integration, so you can do ctrl-j to insert a newline! :D

edit: ah dangit, this is about the desktop app. Nevermind.

Still relevant because claude’s CLI (which is actually more of a TUI) is built on react



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claude can eat me, but since we’re on the topic of electron vs native:

any time i try a new QML or GTK 4 program it uses just as much if not more resources than its electron counterpart, and looks just as inconsistent with the rest of my desktop while doing it. the line between a shitty web app and a shitty native app has been blurred out of existence.


Not to besmirch the quality of the content or the opinions of the author but highlighter yellow as a website background in 2026. Why?!?!?

The guy writes a lot about UI design and I guess, bad/unexpected design amuses him. The hamburger menu uses an actual hamburger for the icon. In the winter, it will also snow on the webpage, with snowflakes covering up the content. And if you’re on desktop, you should try the dark mode.

If my guy was out there to subvert my expectations, he got me. Still bad. But bad with a purpose?

I mean, I’m saying, I genuinely believe it’s just there to amuse the author, and whoever may share the same humor.

Lots of webpages were quirky like that, before it all got commercialized…




To highlight the reason dark mode should be default?



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